SpeedFlex27

In 1989, I moved from Winnipeg to Thompson, MB & took over the office of an independent adjusting firm making more money I ever thought possible. If I was asked to move to Eureka, NWT for 3 million dollars a year, I'd be gone in a heartbeat. You don't have to liove somewhere forever but you get to bank the paycheques. These players that don't want to play for the Jets for whatever reason are entitled pieces of ****.

Stewart got some kind of a plea deal. It's said that on his deathbed that Sawchguk said everything that happened was his fault & he begged the police not to charge Stewart. We all know the cops & the state legal authorities have the final say on whether to charge someone or not despite what the victim says. So again, rather strange.

Elgersma has all the tools. With Collaros & Condell tutoring him he'll be fine. Just needs time as you say.

I agree, wbbfan. This is a discussion forum. Basically being told to shut up & just appreciate what we have doesn't cut it here.

MLB may have something similar. Otherwise, not sure. I just know the NTL is a detriment.

He had a fight with teammate Ron Stewart of the Los Angeles Kings over house expenses they shared in April of 1970. Due to the scuffle, Sawchuk had his gall bladder removed & his bleeding liver surgically repaired but he succumbed to his injuries a few days after surgery. Interestingly, the cops cleared Stewart of any wrongdoing & the DA never pressed charges. You'd think there'd have been a manslaughter charge at the very least considering they had a fight. All kind of hush, hush & strange.

How does a lottery help the worst teams rebuild exactly??? Especially the Jets who refuse to sign any quality free agents as we'd have to pay more to get them or are on a no trade to Winnipeg list. I wouldn't be so dead set against a lottery if the no trade destinations were eliminated totally in no trade lists.

The thing blew up when the landing went wrong. If there were astronauts aboard they'd have been blown to smithereens. The space program set back 5 years.

The only way for Elgersma to learn is thru mistakes. The learning curve is steep. Once he adjusts to the speed of the CFL game then he'll play a lot better. He'll have better days.

If Wilson wants to keep playing then his family isn't helping him. They should stay off social media.

The one time I agree with you. Both knew they had playing time coming. So, go out & show how good they are. To quit a day or 2 before that game makes no sense. From a business sense.

SFU didn't deserve players like Tyler & the others who stuck it out & gave thir blood & sweat for a program that didn't care about them. He should have transferred out but he didn't. I give him credit for sticking it out but but the cost was very high emotionally & physically for the guy. Anyway, I can see where this conversation is going. I'm being pidgeon holed by some here & every time I give an answer the hole is getting smaller. So, for any of you who think my opinion is invalid or romantic, good on you. I have my beliefs & you have yours. Never the twain shall meet. My conversation on this topic s over.

Dunigan had injury problems the longer his career went on. Not at the beginning. Mostly concussions.

If it's such a bad thing to be the 4th or 5th qb then why even come to training camp? You say it's a waste of time so no big deal if they leave. Well, I don't buy what your selling. There are guys who would play on a broken leg if they could. Or never would consider quitting even if they were behind the 8 ball. Yes, it's a business you get paid to win. However, giving up on yourself is also a business decision. They made it. Good luck to them.

No, I don't. Getting cut is one thing. But walking away from your teammates? How is that leadership or character at the position that requires the most of both? To me, it's the ultimate in selfishness. Things get tough & you quit? Wilson probably felt that he didn't get a fair shake & maybe he didn't. Well then, the only one who can change that perception of Wilson is Wilson himself. Work harder. Study harder. Be the most prepared. Leave everything on the table. No stone unturned. Be the smartest qb in meetings. If he still gets cut ast least then he can say he gave it his all & it just wasn't meant to be. If it's not a mental thing then it's physical. From all the stories I read here of fans watching Wilson practice he didn't do that. His passing was missing the mark. For a third year pro, he should be stepping up & not taking a step back. In Thorne's situation, he probably was overwhelmed & decided to get out. I can imagine players like Brock, Dunigan, Clements, etc all felt that at some point but put their head down & powered thru it. Okay, Thorne's not the first rookie to quit. It happens. If he came back & O'Shea agreed to take him back then I'd be okay with that. Being a rookie he deserves a second chance if he wants it in the future. I can say this about my son Tyler since you brought him up. He never quit any team that he played for. He went thru 3 head coaches, 3 OC's, 3 playbooks, three different sets of terminology & 3 QB Coaches in the three seasons he played at SFU. Some very talented players transferred out. They couldn't recruit during the 3 years he played at SFU because they'd take 3-4 months to hire an new HC so the team couldn't commit to players. And beside, who would sign with SFU when they didn't know who the head coach was going to be? So, recruitment was absolutely dead. This just made the team worse every season he was there. Tyler could have went into the transfer portal every year but each time he said no. He felt he owed it to his "brothers" to stay & not run out on them. So he didn't leave. All his loyalty did was to continue playing football for the worst NCAA program anywhere. His final season under Head Coach Kelly Bates was the worst. They didn't win a game. Bates never played 4 down football. He was never a head coach before. Bates was so far in over his head he was 200 feet underwater & sinking fast yet his huge ego was the problem. He thought he knew all the answers to none of the questions & coached like it. He treated Tyler like ****. Took away his captaincy. Made him the third string qb. All because Tyler came into his office after he was hired to talk about some of the grievances the players had with all the changes every year. The players hated Bates because he treated most of the veterans he never recruited like dirt. Dude went 0-39 as a head coach before the AD put him out of his misery but the damege was done. The players had long stopped playing for him. The football program was cooked. The administration's one goal was to kill the football program & the hiring of Bates sure did it. They hired a couple of head coaches after Bates but only won 2 or 3 more football games after that. All of BC's best football players went to UBC instead. The football team was discontinued. Some of these guys at the pro level think they're so hard done by really aren't.