Eternal optimist

Minor thing here - but it was actually Calgary that choked in both those GCs (2016 / 2017). When Edmonton got over the hump in 2014, they took care of business against Ottawa. If nothing else, the past few Grey Cup have proven your record means nothing... could the Bombers have won if they were in from the East? Maybe, but so could any other team put in a similar situation.

FTFY

HH to all the Bomber fans that wake up in Regina tomorrow.... poor sods.

With all due respect regarding Buck calling the plays.... agree to disagree, I guess. This is quickly becoming futile.

(1) Scoring points doesn't directly correlate with doing well in the standings, but what other measure would you use to evaluate LaPo's abilities as an offensive coordinator? If not points scored (which as shown previously his offenses do), then what? (2) Four hours ago you suggested handing the reigns over to someone other than LaPo (Nichols) would exhibit a total loss of control... now you're suggesting we do the exact same thing for Buck Pierce? You're contradicting yourself here. By comparison, Pierce has as much experience calling plays as Glenn did back in '08. Sorry took so long to reply - took me a while to find out if you were just joking or not here, but the Bombers did in fact let Glenn do play-calling back then. (source: https://archives.winnipegfreepress.com/winnipeg-free-press/2008-08-30/page-65/)

Re: TD's for D and special teams; This is your sticking point? It's the CFL - probably 95% of all points are scored by the offense, sure there may be some defensive touchdowns and special team touchdowns rolled into those numbers, I have no idea, my source for those amounts was the CFL's own site here: https://www.cfl.ca/team-leaders/?stat_category=offence&season=2008&week=undefined (etc. for 2009, so on) Even if defensive touchdowns / special teams touchdowns are included in those numbers, how many pick-6's is a team going to have in a year? All-time CFL record for defensive touchdowns is 11 by BC back in 1987. Besides, the other teams will have their own non-offensive touchdowns, which would help even things out. Really, this point is trivial, if you think defensive touchdowns and special team touchdowns are the norms for scoring in the CFL, we're not watching the same league. Finishing first in your division is irrelevant - we're talking about LaPo as an OC, not the entire team as a whole. LaPo did have only 2 years professional coaching experience (with the Argos') before working as OC...but before then, he had been coaching since '93. He coached at the University level since '94. Suggesting Pierce is going to come in as OC, light things up, and make everything butterflies and rainbows is delusional. If it was that easy, teams would do just that all the time, and half the people on this forum would be offensive coordinators. Instead most of us are just offensive.

He's never run a consistent offense, even in a good year: Year - Team - Standing in total points 2008 - SSK - 4th in total points 2009 - SSK - 2nd in total points 2016 - WPG - 5th in total points 2017 - WPG - 1st in total points 2018 - WPG - Still 1st in total points with 338, next closest is Edmonton with 285, though we have played one more game than them currently. So, at worst, LaPo is middle of the pack as an OC. Why underestimate Pierce? He literally has almost no coaching experience whatsoever, and he's been with us since 2014. Not only that, for most of his coaching career he's been learning from LaPolice, this would be the equivalent of asking the teacher's pet to stand up and teach calculus. Where did LaPolice play pro ball? Since when does playing professional football translate into being a good coach? There's plenty of coaches out there that never played at the professional level, but are still great coaches, for example - Bill Belichick.

Help us Chris Matthews you're our only hope.

There once was a guy named Matt, Got the call to throw out to the flat, The pass sailed, the defense failed, .... .... Riders still suck.

If we're at the point where we're relying on CFL refereeing to win games - we are in serious trouble.

By no means is this loss all on Nichols, but that's two games in a row where he's had the opportunity to drive the field - and has thrown a backbreaking interception instead.

I'm a big Nichols fan but man, when the chips are down, does he ever crap the bed.

Would love to see Corey Washington get some playing time today, but I can't see the Blue & Gold eking out a win without Dressler in the lineup..

Oh, I didn't realize today's game was a playoff game.

Well Medlock was 3/3 (100%) over those two games...?

The secret to winning is constant, consistent management.” -- Tom Landry Sorry I guess it won't let me quote your tagline.

Pessimists complain the wind is heading in the wrong direction. Optimists hope it will change - realists actually adjust the sails.

Montreal right now is Exhibit A of what a good defense can do for you

Technically not true, good ole Saskatchewan made the playoffs for a stretch of ten straight years from 1967 to 1976 inclusive, without winning a Grey Cup. Oh by the way, they are the only team currently active that has made the playoff that many years consecutively and failed. Should be noted though that they did win it in 1966, so the point is kind of moot.

Hate to be "that guy", but technically since 6 of the 9 teams make the playoffs every year, it's actually harder not to make the playoffs... regardless of competency.

That's not true, we beat Edmonton in preseason week 2 hah

Obligatory toilet bowl reference. Sorry, too lazy to get a photo... use your imagination.

What? The game was still a one-score game with 9 minutes left in the 4th (15-22) and with 2 minutes left in the 4th (18-25)... certainly giving up +500 yards isn't ideal, but up until that point the D had pretty much solely kept the Bombers in that game. I'm not saying our D is good by any stretch, but they did a kept the Stamps off the scoreboard for close to 50 minutes of the game. If the offense responds when it is 15-22 with a major, or even just a sustained drive - maybe they get the breaks they needed. Please don't try to make this nickname a thing... just... don't.

So obviously Nichols didn't have a particularly stellar game against Calgary. That said, how bad was it? After the Stamps went up 32-18, this is what Nichols did in garbage time: 1st & 10 on WPG 19: 7 yard pass 2nd & 3 on WPG 26: 14 yard pass *** Pick 6 *** 1st & 10 on WPG 39: 11 yard pass 1st & 10 on WPG 50: 30 yard pass 1st & 10 on CGY 30: Incomplete pass 2nd & 10 on CGY 30: 4 yard pass 1st & 10 on CGY 13: Incomplete pass 2nd & 10 on CGY 13: 8 yard pass 1st & 3 on CGY 3: 3 yard TD to Adams So in total - 77 yards in the final 100ish seconds of trash time. His game total was 258 yards - 1 TD - 2 INTs... take garbage time away, and his already pedestrian stats slink down to 181 yards - 0 TDs - 1 INT. If that doesn't paint an ugly picture, I don't know what does.

In university, there was a guy that I took Biology 1 with, he thought the final would be easy because it was 100% multiple choice. To discourage guessing, the scoring system penalized you with a -1 for an incorrect guess. Only guy I've ever known to end up with a negative % on his exam (-3%).