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2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Nah the fact he’s got this sub par fit from an excellent program deep with coaches speaks volumes to how high quality a person and coach he is. The chris jones type move would be sliding into a program that under achieved in a lesser or sub optimal spot so you can slither up into the hc spot with any on field turmoil. Kerry Joseph is a great guy, very very mos like in character attitude work ethic and leadership. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Former cfler Kerry Joseph took an ast coach job in Texas, he’s going to be a special defensive ast. He’s been a qb coach the last few years in the nfl. A college job like Texas is a good gig, but special assistant on the D side isn’t great for longevity. He’s was pretty close to being jobless this season. He’d be a great target for a team up here, especially for fresh blood on O and qb grooming. And to groom as a hc. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Cam Peterson is a 6’5 280 dt from southern, parts of 2 seasons had 50 tackles 4 sacks 9.5 tfl. 5.54 40 was disappointing, but 34” vert and almost 10’ broad is good. Played 3t-4i which fits well with what we do. Kicked around the nfl work outs/camps a bit. Sounds like a guy coaches really liked down there. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
29 rushing tds in 25 games too. 5’7 220lbs, talk about a wrecking ball build. 4800 yards and 80tds in high school too. His measurables are not great athletically, but his quickness and acceleration are very good. Hes got great cut back and hesitation moves, and he’s a tough north south runner. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Quinton-Cooley-RB-WakeForest -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Didn’t Kerry Joseph do it once or am I crazy? And cut lucky, good moves all around. I’m excited to see what Bailey brings. Even if some one else plays like their hair is on fire, short of injury I don’t think any one is changing the top3. when elgersma gets out of mini camp and doesn’t get an nfl deal (mini camp invite is a pretty raw deal for the players these days, it’s like a coaching clinic, no longer a try out for camp) we bring him in, we cut the worst of the rest of the QBs. I like chase’ arm talent, but we tear through rookie QBs at warp speed. Talented or not. It takes a lot for a rookie qb to earn a long term pr spot. It is as likely that a qb is gone and another rookie is in before elgersma even gets here. Hopefully elgersma doesn’t drag his heels hoping for an nfl pr invite after minicamp. He needs to get here asap after that imo. Having mini camp and getting here too late would be a big blow to year one development. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I love the idea and we usually get some thing similar but a bit more fluffy from Tait here. If the league put it self out there more and gave fans all the stuff they don’t want to share, they would create a huge vacuum for the target demographic. I know no team would want to be that open, but if they want to break the norm it will take great discomfort. I’m not talking about teams bad mouthing players they don’t like, but being open about what they do like about who they like. Competitively, it comes to pass fairly quickly after the draft that each team knows who the other teams liked. And it doesn’t really matter at that point any way. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I mean we finally grew him into a useful piece on teams only to get rid of him. It’s bizarre to say the least. But it’s kind of status quo. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I mean, find some one from the nfl side saying Streveler was over rated. Augustine was given the same money as Brady at one point, (and making more than other starters in the league) and is a career 200 yard per season rusher over 6 seasons. Augustine played teams for barely a year and a half. He became solid at it in the end, which is a small piece of his career. We’ve seen worse Canadians get a lot more chances than they should have many times in the league. Hamilton went after all our ex players. I wouldn’t be stunned if at some point they go after dole now lol. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Wilson is easily as solid in qb3 as Strev is at qb2. I don’t care for either. Glad one is gone. One more to go. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Far better backs have have more over larger sample sizes and been cut. Small sample size ypc is meaningless. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He also had a 40 soo slow you couldn’t even say he ran. He wade millered that time. If came out the way he was when he left here, first round pick. Wonder if he’s eligible for ufl or arena or some thing. Honestly, still reasonable to take the guy but probably went too high. All makes a lot of sense now. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
This brings us to 6 plus elgersma. That’s fine for rookie camp if you want to limit Zach/chris throws before full tc. But you gotta cut atleast one out of rookie camp, and then another if elgersma signs. In tc you just don’t have that many snaps first and second unit get lots of reps. You can rotate in 1 guy with each unit reasonably well. Balancing a full 3rd unit on O means a full one on D and leaves it being led not by your co or your primary position cosch (oc then qb coach) but by a 3rd depth coach. And it means you don’t have qb coach / oc eyes on those snaps which heavily devalues even having them. In the nfl, a third unit is run by guest coaches with help from in league scouts. We don’t have that luxury any more. So more than 4 QBs in camp isn’t good unless you have a hurt qb. In rookie camp you have fleets of WRs and dbs running drills over and over. You end up with an insane volume of throws in even 30-45 minutes. An extra arm there is great. You often see coaches winging balls at times when you have 4 or less or need to spell one guy. I expect we have known if one of a group of guys comes available, the lowest man on the roster is gone. Likely a certain former rider qb. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Feel like this means a qb cut is happening. I like the arm talent. Very easy fluid smooth arm motion. Fast release that he can speed up/shorten if needed. Despite all that he has all the arm strength you could need. Not a laser cannon but really good. Great considering his release and motion. Sneaky quick and a really smart runner. Doesn’t take stupid hits, runs smart angles, keeps his eyes down field, and can break bigger runs. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep. And we’ve seen guys who mad a million plus come up north from the nfl. Manziel to bishop. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I really like your guys draft. People should look long and hard when the Argos are drafting dl high up. I like Shand, ojo, Coakes, and Pyle. Why you and every one passed on Newell is beyond me though. I’m sure that guy will get a camp invite. CFL doesn’t often pass on athlete like that. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Those are not our best options, none of those 3 can play end and they can all just play 3t. Schmek is the only one useful on teams. Bailey is an athletic tweener who could take snaps at lber, rush hand up or down and play teams. He’s likely just up against gowanlok. We are likely to Carry 6 dl now with more lbers. with cam and Jake (unfortunately) pencilled in it’s gonna be hard to even roster one of schmekel and Korny out side of the pr. Tentatively right now I’d expect Wj Lawson woods vaughters with Jake, and Bailey. Adam’s is likely going to have to steal a job. Lber I think we will end up with 2 of kyrie, jones, jones and ayers. And the 2 rookies. I hope Ayers and Jonathon jones. Along with cadwallader and Gauthier. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I would cut one qb asap and bring in a rookie flyer. Those two don’t offer much. Wouldn’t have been my top pick, but would make the league as an imp. 12 games last year 31 tackles 18.5 tfl 9 sacks 9 qb hits 2 pkd fcs all American all big sky etc etc. He is very well poised to be on our ar in place of a di imp. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That’s good, I thought he was some super senior. I saw 97 some place but I don’t see any ones ages clearly listed in any of the draft stuff. Don’t think so. Next year likely needs to take a roster spot from some one. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah. Athletic imp ish lbers are common at the top of the draft. Athletic imp ish dbs aren’t and it’s kind of a bitter pill to swallow missing out on a few guys like that. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That’s an interesting point economically. Teams are paying their top ni guard 200k+, and you can easily fill that with a 100k import who is hands down better. Even an elite imp guard will be half of a guy like desjarlais. Intangibles go far in the trenches. It’s not like he’s a slug either or has terrible foot work. I don’t think he has high tier potential by any means but he’s a great mix of pro ready and should be expected to become a solid contributor. I believe Shay is like 27 isn’t he? Am I crazy or isn’t he born in 97? I like both lbers both would be in the league as imports. When you can get an ni like that it’s a nice get. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
It’s good value for a cfl draft. But this is a great draft. Maybe it’ll work out great running counter to what every one else did. Just like our off season really. I like vibert but I don’t think he has a ton of upside. I can’t see him passing walllace on a depth chart unless Wallace is out for the year. I was looking at other teams drafts and man idk where I’d rank us but it probably wouldn’t be good. Yeah It just clashes with picking up jones and resigning other jones. in a draft full of athletic outliers, and high level producers on both sides of the border, we got two position players and a qb in that mold and a bunch of randos you could find in any draft. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Over all I give our draft value a B+, with a good chunk of guys who could be on the roster. The fit I give a WTF. This draft had a bunch of guys who will likely be starters for years in this league and likely a couple all stars. Outside of our top 2 picks, very little chance we have any of that. We basically reverted to the thing from a few years ago where we draft all the special teams guys with a good floor and little ceiling. It got us into trouble previously, leaving us with weak starting Canadians. We’ve continued to lose starting Canadians this off season and not replaced their potential. It’s a calculated risk, guess we will see how it pans out. We drafted two ratio breaking lbers in Shay and smith who can both play, but we didn’t need to fix our lb core. They have tons of upside and a very good chance to fulfill. We could platoon them or start one this year imo. One should be a starter by next year. In our system it makes a lot of sense to flip a lber to ni and use the imp on either line. We drafted a qb, lol, who does have upside and arm talent, but it’s gonna be tough for him to go from playing usports Ds to pro Ds. Novak is a sequel to cadwallader Gauthier etc. teams guy very little upside. Vibert is a high floor low ceiling ol that fits well this year but idk if he is starter material. Corcoran, acceptable size, good polish great work ethic solid teams guy. Ball while his dad sucks, is a strong value grab. Good enough athlete with a teams inclination. This pick looks worse because the draft had soo many stud db prospects. Lang is a low ceiling undersized sub par athlete at book end. Could be teams but likely has to add weight to be useful on D. We basically drafted another gowanlok. Finally we drafted an injured raw lotto ticket in Uwubanmwen. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah it’s gonna be a tough go. They probably really like his intangibles. maybe he’s a guy you bring in to look at as a fb/te/goal line stand etc and see if you can mold him into some thing rotational with that. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Does he have the frame to go up significantly from 239? I mean I don’t think he could be less of rusher at 265+ but idk if he has that transformation in him -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Cmon now he’s literally 3/4 the man Sheridan was coming out of college lol! Laing idk if he has much to contribute to the ar, but I think he’s a good scrappy kid who is valuable as a tc body. Good off the line good hands tough nasty and high motor. But really undersized and not an athlete.