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1 minute ago, JCon said:
I think we should take the best prospect on the board.
At 13, we're not likely to get someone who can walk into the line-up, so take the player with the best possible upside.
We need a LH defenseman today but will we need one tomorrow? That, I'm not certain.
I'd agree but the Jets are pretty stacked at forward and the depth there looks good for the foreseeable future. The same can't be said for the blue line at this point, IMO. The LHD depth is particularly concerning.
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Just now, Noeller said:
You can't possibly be this stunned....did you miss an entire thread of electricity puns based on his name?
Sadly, yes.
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I'd like to see the Jets grab a defenseman with the 13th overall pick. Valimaki could be that defenseman. LH shot, too.
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Just now, Floyd said:
Oookay...
FWIW, his numbers are better than any NAT receiver currently on the Bombers' roster.
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On 2017-05-16 at 1:42 PM, Floyd said:
I feel like he's a flash in the pan.
Based on what...?
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4 minutes ago, do or die said:
Just read that thread about Ekakitie's contract on RF. What a bunch of corn. Some of these Jones supporters sound suspiciously like Trump acolytes.
Hilarious how they'll lap up Dunk's information when it doesn't involve their team but when it does, he's a crap-disturber and a hack.
Absolutely comical.
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52 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
Is it too soon to mention we could have taken Durant or Waud instead of Morgan?
Durant would look great in blue & gold.
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3 hours ago, 17to85 said:
But the point is that it's mostly a scouting tool, whether it's self scouting or scouting players on other teams. I've said this plenty in lots of places, but any kind of statistics are only as valuable as the people interpreting them. Knowing how to use the numbers is far more important than actually having the numbers.
That goes without saying, though. Obviously, the individuals calling the shots have to understand how analytics work in order to apply them to their operation. I mean, that same logic can be applied to anything in sports. Coaches have to know how to use players, players have to know how to use plays, etc.
My point is this: analytics have value and the results we've seen in recent years across sports demonstrate that consistently.
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Better Call Saul's third season has been amazing so far.
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50 minutes ago, Floyd said:
As opposed to Jets fans chants...?
I don't hear Jets fans chanting (insert opposing goalie's surname) four times followed up with "you suck!" and I have rarely missed a game. At least "Crosby's better!" and "Mario's poolboy!" are creative.
Remind me what deflection accomplishes, though.
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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
That's on Cheveldayoff for the most part. He & Maurice obviously thought he could handle it. Then our GM did nothing as the season went on. Nothing. I'm not huge on Helle as I've seen a lot of goalies come & go with different NHL teams over the years. If he capable of stepping up then he will. if not, we'll find out. Big season coming up for him in 17-18.
Cheveldayoff's hands must be numb these days. He better make some moves this off-season.
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Wild game in Nasvhille tonight. I have to say those fans are a bit much, though. Love the passion but the dumb chants and classless behaviour are not cool.
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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
He's shown he can play in the NHL. Yeah, I'll give him that. But he hasn't shown to be an elite goalie. Or that he can carry the load like other goaltenders in the league. For all we know he may ultimately show that he's a career backup.
He stepped up during the 2015-16 season when he was called up and played well for stretches this past season. He was obviously overworked after having his workload essentially doubled because the backup available couldn't accomplish anything.
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2 hours ago, 17to85 said:
But the hawks use it mostly as a scouting tool, and they use stuff that the fans and bloggers don't track. Plus in hockey it also has some discrepancy between stats and reality. Best example is Kris Russell. Guy has bad fancy stats yet still a good player and it drives stats nerds bonkers
In a draft and develop model, it's an important tool. Of course there are discrepancies; nothing is perfect.
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29 minutes ago, Noeller said:
As I said, all I'm saying is "I'd listen to a case for" that theory.....it would make sense......nerds like to think they understand sports, but unless you've been there, in the room, on the bench/sideline.....you don't really "get it". I would guess that most advance stats nerds are guys who suck at sports but want to be cool and say they're involved in sports, so here's there way to put nerd skills to use.
Again, just saying I'd listen to the case for that......
Theo Epstein never played professional baseball but has been a very successful GM in MLB. He helped end the Red Sox championship drought in 2004 and did the same with the Chicago Cubs last year.
Stan Bowman never played professional hockey but his success as a GM in the NHL has been unparalleled in the last decade or so. The Blackhawks were the first NHL team to put analytics to work in hockey and the results speak volumes. Since then, many other NHL teams have copied that strategy and the league itself has adopted analytics/advanced statistics as an important aspect of the game.
You don't have to play the sport to "get it," anyway. I can't say I understand your line of thought.
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2 minutes ago, Noeller said:
I'd listen to a case that most advance stats nerds don't actually understand what they're watching......you can watch all the tape you want, but it doesn't help you understand it if you've never really played the game, or at the very least have been around competitive sports and spent time "in the room". I'm sure there's some overlap, but it's the exception rather than the rule...
How did you come to that conclusion?
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9 minutes ago, Atomic said:
Not true, the people compiling the stats are not the same ones analyzing them
That's not necessarily true. Anyway, my point is compiling stats still requires watching the game. And in order to compile advanced statistics - that is to say, statistics beyond "standard" numbers we see now in football - one has to actually watch the game.
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25 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
No the only reason people want these stats is so that they can make definitive claims without having to watch every minute. Players don't need them to know what they need to improve on, it's purely so you can make a judgement call on someone without having spent an exhaustive amount of time watching the player.
Uh... No, that's not it.
What about advanced statistics is so offensive to you? And for anyone compiling advanced statistics, there is a requirement to spend time watching the sport - exhaustively. It's how statistics of any kind are compiled in the first place.
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1 hour ago, sweep the leg said:
Which of Ottawa's hundred or so icings have you find most entertaining so far?
"What a sound and thoughtful rebuttal," said nobody ever.
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1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:
The whole Helle thing has been weird. Pav gets injured and they run a rookie for upteen games in a row.
Yeah, I can't say I've understood how the goaltending has been handled the last two seasons.
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11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Hutchison was Helle a couple of years ago. A young goalie with potential. Well....
How do you figure? He was a waiver pickup and has essentially served as a stop gap and backup when Montoya wasn't re-signed. He had a good season back in 2014-15 but has been otherwise below average. He's been a known commodity for some time now.
Hellebuyck, OTOH, is part of the team's draft and development model, having played considerable time in the AHL and now in the NHL. He has shown he's capable of being a starter at the highest level but his workload was heavy in what was basically his sophomore season - hence the need for a proven veteran who can back him up/bail him out as needed. He's also three years younger and his ceiling remains to be seen.
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3 hours ago, 17to85 said:
And for these reasons maybe we need to stop trying. I mean it's a position that really does rely on so many other people doing their job correctly it seems like a lot of wasted effort trying to distil an individual into a catch all stat that tells how good or bad they are. Can't we just watch the games and judge who is good and who isn't?
But analysis to that degree is important and does provide entertainment for some. It can also help players understand how to improve/fine tune their personal game.
Mike does make a really good point about drinking, though.
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Is this real life anymore...?
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1 hour ago, Jacquie said:
Nothing like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they were linking the forum to the CFL forums but that's just a guess since the Bomber section there has no traffic. The only threads being started there in the last couple of months are ones by Nate.
I had an update from Marni - she was told by the Bombers it should hopefully be back within the week.
Pretty sure we're talking about different forums. And my initial comment was more facetious than anything.
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No, of course a GM shouldn't reach. That's not at all what I'm suggesting.
I'm saying Valimaki could be available at that position and if so, the Jets could benefit from taking him.