New_Earth_Mud

Cheers to those posting reports and links. Much appreciated.

And wasn't his middle name Costanza? Lived in a van down by the river Craphonzo Costanza Crapinga Foley. lol The cost to keep this guy in pants may blow the budget

And wasn't his middle name Costanza? Lived in a van down by the river

Blaming Eakins for the crap ED is is kinda like a guy slapping lipstick on a pig then blaming that guy cuz its still a pig.

Tolerance as long as we all agree and don't debate right?It is not the debate that is the issue, it is the vitriol and sanctimoniousness that too often creeps into the debate. Once people start speaking for God, we're into the cesspool. Thanks for proving my point. some people still think homosexuality is wrong, based on their religious beliefs. Welcome to planet earth. You can't kill debate just because you don't agree with someone's opinion. the great thing about our society is debate is still allowed......sort of. Lol. Some people still think black people are lesser humans than white people. Some people think women are second-class compared to men. Just because a certain part of the public holds an opinion, doesn't mean "tolerance" is required -- especially if that opinion specifically includes hate and intolerance. Yes, all those people absolutely have the right to think and believe what they do, but that doesn't mean debate is the best choice in all cases. As for Michael Sam, I assume the Als have done their homework and worked him out, especially if they're offering him $125k per year right off the hop. If that's not the case, then they're setting a terrible precedent. Best of luck to him and them, though! If anyone holds a diff belief then you ..... tolerance is required at all times. Tolerance to someone can not ever be debated because its their right and freedom to do so. You may choose to disagree but you can never say they are wrong. you can never say you are right. The day you choose to say your right and everyone that dont agree is wrong is the day you become no better then ISIS.

Thats to much for Hall

I have no real issue with Ovi at all. Just think that sometimes players in this situation dont really need to rush over and take a spot on a team that was doing pretty well without him. Even the comintaters were sayin the PP got all screwed up because they had 3 guys all trying to get to the same place. Might have been better if he just flew over to support the team rather then tiring to maybe be the hero. Im sure all these guys love their countrys and want to play for them any time they can but that being said sometimes they might help more by not playing. I know Ovie loves playing for Russia and i respect that. Just think it was the wrong situation this time. Pretty sure it was Ovie that once said that even if the NHL wouldnt let the players play for their countrys in the Olympics hed go anyway.

Thats crazy i never seen that. I agree... good on Ovie.

Why did Ovie bother coming over for two games? He looked totally bagged today. Selfish players have hurt them for years. Its hurt us at times also.

Hellebuyck sure looks good. Pretty calm for a guy his age in these games

Maurice is pretty good with figuring out where to put guys it seems. He also seems to be aware of the players skill set and confidence. When listening to his interviews he pays attention to when he feels he can push the young guys and when he needs to hold back a bit. IMO Ehlers has the skill to make it and i have zero doubt hes on the big team.

America is a messed up place. Its all fake. Zero idea how to keep control or lead their own........ Yet have the balls to run about the world telling others how to live. Its a complete joke IMO.

Ehlers, Morrissey Copp make the big team. I think once Copp is comphy as a center in the bigs Petan will be brought up as a wing. Petan is a bit iffy for me because he can play both center and either wing. Hes got a skill set you want to have but we are kinda short on places. IMO id rather have a bigger player like Copp take a center position and get comply in that roll and then bring up Petan to fill a wing roll. Then as Petan gets more use to the bigs start using him more. Ehlers, Morrissey are more NHL ready. Both these guys are pure hockey players and have the skills to make the jump and be effective. Copp also.

OK... Ill have to answer in parts... As for my own life, I grew up with and around bikers. As i got older and watch things around me i decided to get myself out... get a normal job and life. Trust me it wasent easy but i eventually did it. So as for me i spent a lot of my life hating cops then it kinda turned and i found myself hating bikers. Now that im older and my life is different i find i dont really hate anyone. I see both side really clear and understand them both. Ive been used and abused by cops at one time then by bikers. So now when i look at these situations i stand back and look at it from both sides without blinders or bias to anything. One of the most important things ive learned from all this is when there is an action there is no doubt going to be a reaction. Good bad or otherwise the one thing you can always count on is the reaction to any action. Now back to these cases and the protesters and the moron rioters..... I at no time ever said the looting at riots were ok and used the cops started it as an excuse. I simple said it was a reaction to an action from the cops. We cant sit back and say they had no idea there would be protesters and rioters.... It goes hand n hand with these things. Its happened before and will happen again. It would be extremely naive to think looting and riots would not happen. As for race .... i took that out of these 2 situations because both black n white cops were involved in both. I dont really think either case would be different if the guys were white. What im more pinning this on is this silly brotherhood nonsense the cops seem to have. IMO its crappy cops doing a crappy job and covering each other. I look at it this way..... I have loyalty to my coworkers and im in no way shape or form a rat.... but i wouldnt let any coworker of mine do a crappy job or half assed job if its going to effect me or my job or my position. I will help a coworker but i will not ever cover up their crap work if its going to effect me. And that is what i expect from the cops. As for me owning a biz thats looted and raised to the ground or the other examples you gave me and what would i do? Well like i said.... id step back and have a look to why this happened. Sure the idiot rioters caused it but why? Did i do something? Are they just idiots? Did it happen to other biz around me? If i look at this case then id be blaming the cops for allowing this from the get go. Their action or actions caused this reaction. These idiots didnt just up and start looting for no reason.... they feel they were reacting to a situation that was started by the cops. Right or wrong. Sure they are morons for they way they acted But in the big picture i look to the cops to keep the peace and not start or be the cause of protests and with the looting and violence that always seems to come with it. Truth be told.... At this time in my life if it was a biz of mine that was being threatened by idiot looters and riots. Id call my biker friends to surround my biz and not allow it to be touched. If a family member needed medical attention during a riot and looting id also call my biker friends. My reason for this is simple.... My biker friends are not handcuffed by any law. They will do what needs done.

Im not being dragged into anything. Your the one that always seems to add in your own lil facts here n there and make it about you or me and now our buddys and all that. Simply step away from that and just look at the situation and the facts of it. I dont agree with the looting and craziness but has it happened during everyone of these protests? ... Yup it sure has. In every city this stuff has gone on the nut bars come out n wreck crap. What i am being dragged into and dont accept is COPS MURDERING citizens in cold blood for no reason other then they think they are above the law. It has nothing to do with me or you or our friends...... First guy that ran... Cop shoots him 5 times in the back.... Its Murder. 6 cops all help kill an unarmed guy for no reason at all other then they are ****** bag cops that thought theyd have a bit of fun. They caused their fellow cops to be hurt and abused by the people because of their actions. If these 6 cops acted reasonable and did their jobs correct then there would be no reaction from the people... is that not correct? This the way i look at all these situations..... Cops are trained to prevent situations... I even believe some places have it in writing right on their cars. Cops need to be looked at as trained to handle all kinds of situations... prevent them or react to them. All cops in Baltimore put themselves in situations they did neither.... They didnt prevent Freddie from being killed and they couldnt react when people had euff and acted out because of it. If you want to call all them people stupid and scum or whatever thats fine.... but think about it. Dont you hold cops to a higher standard when it comes to these things? You expect a bunch of kids in high school to act more appropriate and reasonable then cops? They are kids... they do stupid things... its what they do. They should be charged for their actions. I felt bad for them cops just having to stand there and take it. But eh they started it. They can see people all over the country have had enuff. What needs to happen is the cops need to start policing eachother and make sure they are all doing their jobs in the correct manner and stop going off thinking they are dirty harry. Cops keep poking the dog..... that dogs getting closer to biting back and it will get a whole lot worse.

You never said if you run you should expect to be shot? I think if you engage the police in any sort of physical altercation and evade you should consider that an option. Which is a far cry from me saying a person deserves to be shot for running. If you dont like that, take it up with law-makers. Police have the right (some would say duty) to fire on an evading suspect under certain circumstances. I've repeatedly stated in this case that the officer was wrong to shoot. I've merely presented the other side of it which is the fact this was not what the media painted it as in the immediate aftermath. And that there are complications to the case. Now look at Baltimore where criminals hide behind the guise of protesting to commit their criminal acts while the police are forced to withdraw and let them go wild. I do hope that the people arrested are prosecuted to the full extent and not given soft punishment due to the circumstances. What a shameful display but the citizenry and where are the leaders of the black community demanding they stop this? You see celebrities trying but they often get painted with nasty remarks for being "successful." And again, much like the origional case, there was no need for the violence and fake protesting as the police were charged following an investigation. There's another case right now (location escapes me) where a black suspect was arrested quite violently, caught on camera by the police. The cops took him down hard and punched him several times. A station camera then caught the officers cleaning themselves up and joking about the take down. Those cops will be consequenced too, no doubt. AAs for this.... Well this remarkable restraint as you called it before was done in the first place none of this would have happened... Do you agree? So saying these cops had to withdrawal and allow people to go wild is a bit nuts IMO. They asked for this by acting like morons in the first place. Dont go killing unarmed citizens in the first place and this wouldnt happen. I hope all these cops in all these cases are charged to the extent of the law and found quilty so the rest of the douchbag cops start doing there job correct and stop thinking they are above the law.

You never said if you run you should expect to be shot? I think if you engage the police in any sort of physical altercation and evade you should consider that an option. Which is a far cry from me saying a person deserves to be shot for running. If you dont like that, take it up with law-makers. Police have the right (some would say duty) to fire on an evading suspect under certain circumstances. I've repeatedly stated in this case that the officer was wrong to shoot. I've merely presented the other side of it which is the fact this was not what the media painted it as in the immediate aftermath. And that there are complications to the case. Now look at Baltimore where criminals hide behind the guise of protesting to commit their criminal acts while the police are forced to withdraw and let them go wild. I do hope that the people arrested are prosecuted to the full extent and not given soft punishment due to the circumstances. What a shameful display but the citizenry and where are the leaders of the black community demanding they stop this? You see celebrities trying but they often get painted with nasty remarks for being "successful." And again, much like the origional case, there was no need for the violence and fake protesting as the police were charged following an investigation. There's another case right now (location escapes me) where a black suspect was arrested quite violently, caught on camera by the police. The cops took him down hard and punched him several times. A station camera then caught the officers cleaning themselves up and joking about the take down. Those cops will be consequenced too, no doubt. Well you might consider it but it would be murder. Few things i found out.... If a guy robs a bank at gun point get out and runs..... Cops CANNOT shoot him unless he points the weapon at a cops or persons or has shot someone in the bank. If a guy gets into a fist fight with a cop and gets away and runs and is unarmed ..... Cops CANNOT shoot him..... Even if the guy is armed cops CANNOT shoot him unless hes pointing the weapon. The only way from my understanding from what i have found in any laws about cops shooting is if the person has to committed some violent act like murder. And even that all options must be exercised first and only then may a cop use deadly force. All in all from everything ive been reading someone pretty much needs to be in grave danger of being killed before deadly force my be used by any cop. If you can find anything anywhere that it says a guy can be shot for fighting and running from a cop id love to see it. Like i said before... look at England... cops dont even have guns.

I dont see any reason why we would do any of this. I dont know if we sign fro. I think the need for him was more important to us at the beginning of the year. I think we may have guys in our system that can take his role at a less of a hit. Stafford will sign here.... Thats a great thing. We can and will afford to sign him... Hes like having another Wheeler in your line up. Tlusty? If we sign him it will be as a 4th liner. Maurice likes him so im not sure where this goes. Solid player IMO .. Not to concerned either way. Stemp will sign. He likes it and he fits our mold. I think guys like Stemp and Stafford stay because of the environment within the team. Staff has been thru the chaos in Buff and Stemp has been thru the UFA gig.

Have to disagree on the air force thing. That would be a whole lotta air force stuff. I think they may keep it the Moose to kinda bring everything back home. Manitoba Moose.... But in Jets colors.

IMO with Petan ya he is small but as you say hes a leader and has really good hockey sense about him. He could use this all as an advantage to him with our team. Lil quick dude that has a sense where to be with an awesome shot and improve our scoring. Ehlers is somewhat the same... not a banger but a quicker guy that has huge hockey sense and knows where to be and can put it away. Morrissey Ya that guys got skills. Trouba, Myers and Morrissey on our D is going to be huge.

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You never said if you run you should expect to be shot?

In a way you do tho. You have no prob with the cops painting everyone with the same brush. If he runs he must be bad so shoot him. Thats nuts IMO. You have said you think its ok for cops to just start shooting anyone that runs. Thats not right IMO. Cops aret there to kill bad guys... They are there to apprehend the bad guys for the justice system to work in the manner its set up for. Like the saying goes... Crap rolls down hill. Cops need to earn respect. If they just go off painting everyone the same then things will get ugly. I dont agree with these idiots looting and being complete arseholes either but its whats going to happen and everyone knows it. Cops seem to want to be judge, jury and executioner and if that continues things will become worse. Ill ask you this..... Why do you think this goes on far far more in America then any other free country?

From my understanding the knife wasent found until he was chased down. What i heard on CNN is he made eye contact with police and he ran. They chased him and the **** show begins.

To bad they didnt show that remarkable restraint before they killed Freddie Gray. You're right. But that's bo Defense for what the "protesters" have done. The cops were duly investigated and charged. Of course its a great defense for it. Would be no protesters if they showed restraint in the first place. Cops cant just be going off killing people.