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what a weird statement by Dunk... I'm pretty sure 7 other teams have also wanted McManis playing for them for years... Ceresna is a better DE... and he's not even a DE, lol... I have no hate for Vaughters, he was OK last year... he would probably benefit from playing across from a star... and I'm not sure he'll have that in his new home remember not that long ago you were saying Mace should be fired for taking responsibility for a loss??

No no but a friend has.

It's not about convincing. It's in their DNA, you know, science.

Have you even seen that movie?

Do you remember just how bad & undisciplined the Riders were under Craig Dickenson? He stood up for Garrett Marino who was a thug on the field & run out of the league. Duke Williams spit on an Argo & while injured off the Rider roster that same season took a swing at a Blue Bomber who ran out of bounds at the Rider bench right beside Dickenson. I don't recall much of a controversy at Mace's media conference when he was hired as Rider HC. Or if he even said that. Players should have to make the team on merit. Not entitlement. We've seen that going on here for 12 years. We lost our fair share of players over the past 3 off seasons leading up to this one. The flip side is if you keep playing OTH veterans like Thomas & Kolankowski it creates a log jam & younger players who deserve it can't get on the field. They end up leaving at the end of their contract anyway. The older players keep signing because they want to keep playing & know that anywhere else they'd be cut. So, they re-sign these loyalty "cap friendly" deals. I don't get your criticism of Mace. He's just doing his job.

And I always thought it was Debbie does Dallas.

Stealth research has found a picture of JGD

I saw a report early this morning that he was getting ready to sign with the Tiger Cats. Haven't read anything since. mauldin wasted his best years in a shitty organization with the RedBlacks. he should have bailed while he had the chance at his peak. Chose no to. Now, his career is roadkill.

All receiving are inconsistent when they are very young. Ajou got an NFL contract for a reason and DDB has all the potential in the world. Wiebe will be interesting as well, hope he's not too small.

No I am not overly concerned about our losses yesterday as our personal department is very good at identifying talent. Heck we have already gotten rid of 2 of our biggest weaknesses last year, Lauther and Alford. This time last year nobody knew who Tom Nield, Joe Robistelli, and Baldonado were. Heck many were laughing when we re-signed Carney last offseason.

Yes, it would definitely have helped. No way of knowing what kind of contributions he may have made. He actually stayed healthy last year and was by far, the best receiver in the league. Hard to come with a reason that wouldn't have helped. You say "wow what a catch by Kenny Lawler" like it's a bad thing. Those kind of grabs change games.

Cuz they are dumbasses.

Coach and assistant gm. Either or. He would have been gm and Chevy the president of hockey ops by now.

The Riders could sign every free agent and win 14 straight Grey Cups and they would still suck. That is just a fact. I don't know why Rider fans come on here thinking they can convince us otherwise.

Would it have? Hamilton didn’t win. Our O was crap. Still Would have been crap but wow what a catch every few games from Kenny.

Vaughters was OK last year. Not great not bad.... if you're expecting more prepare to be disappointed. Honestly it's hilarious that the riders fan comes her thinking their losses are no big deal... they had a pretty charmed season last year and they've lost a lot. Depth is important because injuries happen. Once the Bombers started losing their depth they didn't win championships either. You can hand have it all away but.... I wouldn't expect a repeat for the riders. Especially not when it looks like Winnipeg learned it's lesson last season and you can't count on those wins again.

Lemon will never go to the RIders imo. Bad blood between those two. However, Mauldin (if he was cheap) might be worth a camp invite. Even tho he looked really bad last year, maybe he just needs a fresh start,

Lemon / Mauldin could probably be picked up on the cheap. Might be serviceable in a rotation on a one year prove me deal.

Its February.

The Riders did re-up a bunch of players, but no question they took a major punch to the gut with the losses. It will TBD if the recruits they bring in can perform. We always say you don't win a cup when you win free agency (see the Elks over the last 15 seasons). However losing 5 - 10 quality young players and depth pieces in one year cannot make the run any easier. It wasn't like they shedded dead weight from the club. Also Vaughters isn't the worst guy in the league... he's just an invisible guy. If he plays how he did last season then he's a C level signing. If he can perform at his best then he's more of a B+ signing.

Did you just say to compare their physiques? Seriously? lol I never said Vaughters was as good as Carney, I said Vaughters could be a good rotational player in Mace's system. I believe they worked together in Calgary so Mace is familiar with them. How exactly is the Riders receiving corp a shell of what is was? We lost 2 depth receivers to other teams and one starter to the NFL. Meyers will be back by LDC like Ajou last year, you and I both know that. Very few heard of Nield or Robistelli at this time last year.

Better not be done signing, you guys have what amounts to a pile of rubbish signed at DL right now.

Let me type slowly so you will understand. Sacks, especially when you are talking 6 of them, mean nothing. His PFF was the 2nd lowest at QB pressures in the entire league last year. He, also, struggled badly at holding the edge because he was too slow. We had probably the worst DL in the entire CFL last year, and chose not to offer him a new contract. That ought to tell you way more about his on field impact than the fact the QB got pushed to him a few times last year. We had zero pressure off the edge last year...like none....and we got scorched because of it. Willie J was asked to drop out a lot of the time, so he can be forgiven, but Vaughters did zero and he was supposed to be our pressure guy off the edge. You guys got the worst De from the worst DL....and you think it was a good signing. You are proof that Da Nile isn't just a river in Egypt. After about 2 games of running backs going around the edge on Vaughters and QBs breaking contain on him and QBs surveying the horizon because they have all day in the pocket, and you will realize fully what you had in Carney and what you got in Vaughters. It will cost you games. The losses you guys took will result in lost games. I predict no better than 3rd in the West for you guys next year, and MIGs, you know as well as I do that I am really good at accurately predicting the Riders.