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completely agree... was kinda hoping we would do that with Bighill last year...

Jake Thomas says hi. I know, the exit is that way.

Darvin Adams was a fiery accountability guy, too, right? I recall hearing he had a big personality.

Didn't Walby and Gorell start at tackle in their 40s?

Actually what started all of this was exactly that. Piggy suggested we move Stan to OG to get more years out of him. I thought that idea to be pretty stupid and still do.

Name one good starting tackle at age 40. That is the issue lol. Basically, all Ts are gone long before that. He doesn't face any learning curve. We've seen DL play ol. We've seen guys switch sides. When you have the experience Bryant does, when you've set the line for that long and developed half the elite linemen in the league, you don't have to learn. You especially don't have to learn to move inside. Some guys have weird issues with switching left to right, more so than outside to in, but if you can play T, you can play inside mental blocks aside. Look up "The Tackle Age Wall". The best tackles in the world hit it and disappear around 32. The kick inside happens before that, primarily to guys who are below elite. Because Elite guys have the money and don't want to dimish legacy by playing to 40 and being a turnstile. It happens every single year in the NFL. If you look, you'll see there is a mass exodus from T to G across the board. It isn't a risky scenario. It's literally the safest one. There is no long-term. There is no medium term. Maybe not even a short term. It's day by day. And it's been a long time since the last good day. No one said we shouldn't move on from him if he can't produce. You've lost the plot and spiralled. Come back to the actual conversation point.

That's my point entirely. At this point in his career does it do anyone any good to keep squeezing for extra time? I don't think so. I would think so too. I don't view him as one at all at LT. He's still very good at what he does. Thanks, didn't know he had moved inside. NFL is a completely different game tho and different contracts as well. NFL contracts are guaranteed which make a bit of a difference. Also, it was not really a planned transition he moved to OG when Brandon Brooks was injured. As I stated earlier if we HAD to move Stan to OG out of necessity so be it, but to plan it would be detrimental to everyone.

Thinking that if Big Stan became a liability he would just call it a career.

Possibly.,,,and if so well deserved. I would just hate for us to tarnish SB's legacy with any moves born out of desperation.

The year that J5V changed from Spalding to Wilson was a dramatic difference. I remember the kickers and QBs having fits with the new ones. Not necessarily a change on purpose. Could be as simple as a new supplier of their rawhide.

That is what I suspect, too. I don't imagine his value would drop that badly. But the fit would also not really work imo. We've got Kramdi, Allen, Woodbey, Shay/Smith, and hopefully Griffin comes back. Pickett is a monster at sam, wil or S. He would certainly be an upgrade at those spots. But we aren't going to boot Kramdi for him; Griffin, Woodbey, and Allen are all much cheaper and younger with tons of upside. The same goes for the Canadians. I would love Pickett. I think he will come back to be the premier defender he has always been. I think every team save ott should talk to him and make an offer. But I don't see us being competitive in that market. He's too expensive, the secondary is already expensive as hell, and the risk/reward vs those young guys is not ideal for this kind of upgrade. Not when we have positions where a clear upgrade is badly needed, like DL, OL, and WR. I think thats the dodgers approach now.

I was chatting with KW (no I wasn't) and money is no object. Let's take the New York Yankee approach and just pay the fine at the end of the year.

Normally yes. They pick from a bag of a few and break them in. But we've seen crazy stuff like that in the past. Like when the NBA tried new balls, or when baseball went to more deadened balls after 2019. I would think if that happened, we would have heard about it, though, especially from QBs/wrs. But in this era and league, anything is possible.

No. We already have a lot of money tied up in the secondary.

Worst case scenario- we finish just out of the playoffs, just ask the Calgary Flames.

My only concern with Mcewen is health/age. I do think either of those two at 100% is a big upgrade. Eli would be an instant and drastic improvement in the run game. But his lateral work at guard in pass pro was very subpar. He might be one of those rare guys who struggle at guard vs a natural position, like Hardrick. He might also be a guy who struggles head up, and is more of a bully C. Which is fine, again, teams played a nose on Kola once he was exposed. Teams aren't going to start out challenging Eli like that. He's a mauler. He might not win, especially against speedy, talented 3-techs, but he will give you a battle. Yeah, that would make a ton of sense. I didn't hear any changes to the football, but if they did, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. I thought the J5Vs were awful when brand new. Most of the time, if you could beat 'em up and get some wear on them, they played a lot better. I remember playing a game in real sloppy conditions with brand new ones, and it was like a 3 stooges bit for the first half. At halftime, they put them in bags with gravel from the parking lot, and we shook them the whole half. After that, it was manageable.

40-year-old OL are pretty rare to begin with so we're already in a weird space. Maybe it gets weirder? I dunno.

Because they have to matchup athletically with guys they have to block in pro football. If they can't get their hands on the guys they need to block, they can't really play at this level. There's a major disparity in general in this league on talent level of OL vs talent level of DL. You think too most U Sports teams or even NCAA teams have 1 or maybe 2 OL who could be pro prospects and where do the best guys usually play? Depending on scheme it's going to be tackle or guard spot. Your best athlete on OL isn't going to be at C unless you have major problems with reliability.

So anyone think there’s a chance we sign Pickett?

Jason Peters. Switched to guard before having to move back to T due to starting tackles getting hurt.

The big obstacle I see is that most pure centres are CIS kids, and they stick at C because they are undersized. So we see a ton of undersized kids at C. Now we have had a tremendous history of success in taking undersized kids at C and turning them into monsters. I hope we go back to scooping up kids like this. I think last year's draft had a good chunk of kids worth developing. Pyle, Klassen, Hocevar, Piazza, Berwick, and Horth. Not all of those guys are the traditional undersized type of project, but they are all worth sitting on for a couple of years to polish. I think those types of guys also bring a high floor as a heavy-set specialist in all 3 phases. If you take any of those guys, and refine 1 weakness into a strength or at least to be pro solid, you have a massive win.

Maybe Arneil and Co read the forums here saying he's not that good, so they decided to start winning.

You write with conviction, I'll give you that. I'm assuming MOS is giving SB the same card he gave JT, i.e., you go out on your own terms.

Should cast Jason Mantzoukas as Angel.