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negated by penalty hahaha

Jake rolled into Adams injuring him. That was his tackle.

Loved his heart...but couldn't stay healthy and was rarely a factor in the playoffs. Best of luck to you in Carolina.

and who would blame them...and I can totally see it a few need to go...yup...others need to be in the back seat to fresh talent and become thatdepth...which would make us a way better tem all around...we have a lot of the pieces...we just using the wrong ones...or in wrong order...

or....you cant go home

pretty sure that if we dressed...and used legitimate inside players...Adams and Woods....or who ever and also incorporated another end...and played those said inside guys and rotational end all of Jakes reps....mening hit the PR or injured....would make a world of difference to Vaughters and WJ...Teams can easily neutralize them as it is, plus they bagged out throughout the game. They turned WJ loose in Grey Cup and we see what he can do....I'm almost certain they do not want him playing in a let loose fashion but more so to keep the qb in pocket and beat our secondary, thibking we have the dawgs in th middle to collapse and rush the passer...and we dont when we use certain sets You can see when its Lawson or Adams on the nose...or them together the pressure is breaking through and the results are night and day Then we go sets with Just Jake...Jake and Korn....and we get eaten alive...even when its Jake and Adams....Adams gets penetration still a lot of the time but .....even when double teamed, but Jake just gets stood up in place neutralized....pushed back...or spun around or to the side as the play goes by and just negates anything the other DT just did His sole skill is a straight push on some reps but rarely gets off his block, and when he does has nothing left to finish a play...or chase anyone down...let alone come back from behind l.o.s to make a tackle....how many times tho we see Adams...and Woods last yr do that tho....alot We either need to change or scheme a bit as we dont have....let me rephrase, choose not to use the guys up fron to make it work....or stick with the scheme and roster and PLAY the guys who can make it work...easily fixable if one puts his bias aside and further to that....works from a strength from inside out....strong center...strong/dominant nose and multi tech DT....You cooking with fire...we got the wort center in the league, and the worst "collective" group of interior dlineman in the lague bar none....Adams would start anywhere..as would Woods...thats why I said collective..Schmeck..Thomas...Korn...I have a hard time seeing any one of them cracking a roster...let alone getting reps they do here And then some wonder why our dline seems to get no push/pressure and at times our oline looks like rodeo barrels

So true, that has not changed. Not controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball = be ready to take the L. One line of scrimmage controlled = we have ourselves a game. Both lines of scrimmage controlled = high fives all around.

He's gonna start- good is another matter entirely.

But the O-line is a lot closer to credible.

It seems obvious to me that O'Shea is obsessed with filling the roster with linebackers because he is trying to relive his glory days. It's called displacement.

I think that is an overstatement, but if we get a few more it will impact attendance for sure.

Yup. And I have little to no confidence that this is coming under O'Shea's management. One more humiliation like last night and the fans will start staying away in droves.

Football is a game won and lost in the trenches. Neither our OL or DL is consistently winning those battles.

This has been said ad nauseum and demonstrated on the field that sitting Ayers or any one or two players will change little. We are way past rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. I am going to stop posting the same angry crap as it it both repetitive and infuriating.

I doubt it is scheme as well. All i know is that we have seen way too many mental errors to be blaming scheme. No DC schemes broken coverages. That's 100% on the personnel and their preparation.

yeah....5 to 8 yrs ago....now its status quo rest on our laurels

That's not all on the Safety but yes Alexander was helpful in that regard for sure.

thing is....for last I dont know how many yrs...we show no inclination to change.....Osh says we know the issue and will fix it...backups get zero reps, let alone a chance to grab a spot (even tho they apparently are all starter quality...hence why they here) and we either limp into playoffs with banged up guys....or have nobody after the main 12...13 starters and get beaten down and nobody gets pulled...cause well nobody has earned trust due to lack of play time...and round and round we go....this is loking like round 4....It's still early I agree....but i have zero faith whatsoever that any significant move or coaching shift will occur....none? scheme?...or roster???...workd quite well for most part last yr....me thinks players....especially with many holdovers who wouldnt make a starting unit anywhere else...a couple wouldnt make game day roster

Jake needs to go. There are others as well.

Those bust were caused by communication breakdowns.

Which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, let alone the coaching staff. This has been coming on for two years and the team's unwillingness or inability to replace him is symptomatic of the probems with the team.

Absolutely. Wilson coming back from the NFL would help immensely, and some other tweaks here and there. It's not a lost cause by any stretch of the imagination. Vaughters is not playing very well, and of course our interior DL is weak. We need help there. Not sure we have the personnel right now. Time for an airlift. Not gonna pin any of it on the Safety.

BA is still hanging around, at least he kept them in line and on focus.

when you have MLB with no coverage skills and quite honestly...doesnt really appear to even know where to drop....that stuff happens....and then you have Kramdi in chase mode as he has no cover skills...recipe for a good gouging and sustained drives

Fair. All the best.