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It may have been in shambles due to lack of better options on the depth chart. I'm not trying to hate on Eli, I just want there to be some no doubt about it upgrades vs. maybes this year.

Yes, KW seems like he might show up this offseason. Fingers crossed.

The O-line has been a shambles for the past 2-3 years and until there is both ability and continuity, assessing Eli is likely pointless.

I think his injury was still an issue and was hurried back before really ready...where have we seen that before and it was affecting his explosiveness, and to me looked like it was still in his head and was self preserving Dude wouldnt have lost it all over one off-season. He was also misused/basically neglected on the offence as he could have added a nice lil element if integrated into the system...but the OC and the in no rush to hire a a legit OC last yr was reason for that and we settld for a guy who isnt qualified to run a Prep School offence....and not sure what spots we still need to fill, but Osh's "in no rush" to hire anyone is just more par for the course...hopefully that attitude is the last hold over with him for 2026 and he truly seen the errors as he claimed and is gonna be more hands on and fix things...Thankfully Walter's smartened up and took 2 dead weight anchors away from the equation for TC

Him as our starting LB legit interfered with the joy in my life for years. It was like a dark cloud hanging over me.

Maybe...but maybe not. Maybe Eli just wasn't good enough. I know for sure he was terrible in pass pro whenever given reps as a starter. That does not inspire me to make him a FT starter.

In fairness to Logan, he never really got many return chances. I don't know if he is crap or not but I wouldn't base it on the dozen chances he had to return last year. Vaval stole his job and Logan was never really in the mix afterwards.

Ok...so you meant centre only then? Even worse. I was giving you the benefit of doubt because moving to OG is about the only position where Stan should ever line up besides Tackle. Planning on moving Stan to Centre would be a massive mistake by management and coaching of epic proportions. I would fire both if that is the best plan at Centre they can execute. Anyone suggesting that Stan would automatically make a good Centre, I would ask them what evidence they have he can execute snaps effectively. Sorry even to a GOAT OT like Stan this may not be an area he excels. I've never seen any evidence he can snap the ball so why would I ever assume he would easily pick it up. Most guys don't. I completely agree. All this discussion is for nothing. Stan is still rock solid at OT.

Because O'Shea

Mr. Arniel and team didn't get back to me on where they're at with their 'recruiting plan' this season for drafting a top 2026 prospect so maybe this game tonight might provide a few answers.

🕖 1900 📺 TSN3 Last Ten: 3-5-2 @ 4-2-4 Season Series: MIN leads 2-1 Stats: 18-22-5 @ 26-12-9 Streaks: W3 @ L2 Jets projected lineup Kyle Connor -- Mark Scheifele -- Alex Iafallo Cole Perfetti -- Jonathan Toews -- Gabriel Vilardi Nino Niederreiter -- Adam Lowry -- Vladislav Namestnikov Cole Koepke -- Morgan Barron -- Tanner Pearson Josh Morrissey -- Dylan DeMelo Dylan Samberg -- Elias Salomonsson Logan Stanley -- Luke Schenn Connor Hellebuyck Eric Comrie Scratched: Gustav Nyquist, Danny Zhilkin, Isaak Phillips Injured: Haydn Fleury (bruised back), Colin Miller (lower body), Neal Pionk (undisclosed) Wild projected lineup Kirill Kaprizov -- Danila Yurov -- Mats Zuccarello Marcus Johansson -- Ryan Hartman -- Matt Boldy Vladimir Tarasenko -- Ben Jones -- Vinnie Hinostroza Marcus Foligno -- Nico Sturm -- Yakov Trenin Quinn Hughes -- Brock Faber Jake Middleton -- Jared Spurgeon Daemon Hunt -- David Spacek Jesper Wallstedt Filip Gustavsson Scratched: Tyler Pitlick, David Jiricek, Matt Kierstad Injured: Zach Bogosian (lower body), Joel Eriksson Ek (lower body), Jonas Brodin (lower body) Status report Barron returns after missing three games with an upper-body injury. … Defensemen Pionk, Miller and Fleury each is week to week; Pionk was placed on injured reserve Wednesday. ... Eriksson Ek skated alone and with the Wild on Thursday, but the forward will miss his third straight game. ... Bogosian, a defenseman, did not skate and will miss his fifth straight game; each remains day to day. … Brodin is week to week; the defenseman will not travel on Minnesota's upcoming three-game road trip. ... Spacek will make his NHL debut.

Sam Hurl.

Actually ,you lie. I said inside........NEVER once said Guard.

Feels like there's gonna be a bunch of these....

yeah, didn't see much from Logan last year that showed that he was still a CFL returner ... if Vaval is off chasing the NFL, would rather roll a rookie or a FA signing there.

Logan looked like ass when he got into the lineup, whatever his injury was surely impacted him cause prior he was a pretty explosive guy.

Did the same logic apply when Sam Hurl was starting at MLB back in the day? Oshea using his roster in a suboptimal way is not a new phenomenon.... but I feel like we go around and around and around about this all the time.

I'm fine with Logan being cut regardless of what happens with Vaval. Logan looked slow last year in his (granted) few attempts. I don't mind another competition there.

Yeah we in pretty good position there with incubants and recruited guys...and we havnt seen what FA offers...tho like u said...we need to focus on both lines and WR Do u really need to ask with u know who as the coach...cause it could be asked at likely 4 positions at mi imum the last few yrs

JT still wanted to play tho...so not really on his terms...so we threw him a bone essentially As for Stan...he played just fineast yr and if he back he stays where he is...only change i could see is him and Randolph flipping He's earned the right to.come back and compete and show he still has it..and if he doesn't I can see him doing a Miller on the 6 game all yr or on the PR at full salary just in case and be that veteran presence to guide our young tackles and quasi coach All that said...ive seen nothing to indicate he is not still in the top tier of tackles...last yr for a good majority of our offence cant be viewed as for what it appeared...we were facked from day1

I am fine with Logan being cut. I hope this means they know Vaval is back for 2026.

I can understand it due to the bonus, but I hope this means we are confident that Vaval is coming back

I did so only after the OP told me I didn't know anything about football but I get your point that others may not realize this was directed to him and take offense and that was not my intention. Next time I will directly tell him I think he is an idiot and leave it out of subsequent posts on the matter. Also the use of the word stupid you quoted was a direct answer to SF27 who asked me if I thought discussion was stupid.