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he will just get moved more easily now...His only real use was sometimes getting in the way....now he can be washed away even easier if he is lighter...and define effective?...I dont see it, exactly my point last few seasons....if thats all he good for...and a stretch at that...use those reps...time and lesser salary developing a younger guy with upside and ability...why delay the process when everyone here can agree with...that JT is in no way shape or form the future...nor should be even considered as such his vison...Fav's of his will play be damned...

If Jake is best as a 10 rep rotational guy, is he worth keeping with a higher vet salary? Sounds like a job for a cheaper, younger player does it not?

Like I responded to Noeller, I'm not seeing it, but if the technical experts agree with your statement in bold after game tape review than I stand corrected.

What does it do for morale when vets are churned out like day old bread? You won't get buy in without loyalty being a two way street. Of course, I agree that it can't go over the top to either degree. I mean it's not like we haven't moved on from vets in our organization. I think it is ridiculous that people say the team never moves on when just this year we will not be seeing Bighill or Alexander for instance. But that doesn't match the narrative being driven on this forum so let's forget about all the vets we've moved on from in just the past couple years and focus solely on one player named Jake Thomas. SMH. What guys are we not keeping for our second contract that we would have loved to keep? Name one. I honestly can't believe how much the narrative around here is driven by Jake Thomas? Makes no sense whatsoever. Yea, he probably should be put out to pasture but it is complete nonsense to suggest that we are a team that never moves on from players. Adam Bighill and Brandon Alexander would disagree vehemently with that take. Also this narrative that our roster is too veteran heavy is also nonsense. Our starting 24 last year had the 3rd most amount of rookie/sophmore players in the entire league.

Hey if that results in him lighting it up this year, fantastic. But if it doesn't and he continues to get reps, not sure how that fits with MOS's vision for the team.

Just a hunch. Jake can be effective in limited situational reps. I get what you are saying, but he is effective early in his rep cycle with diminishing returns as he gasses out.

Like I said I'm not seeing it but hey I'm not the technical expert so when game tape review happens by the experts, that is where fact can be found.

He can definitely be effective when used in very small doses. And, fwiw, it looks like he's lost a fair bit of weight this year, which will hopefully help. Still want Lawson taking the majority of reps if we're insistent upon having a starting NI DT...

What makes you think he'd be a good coach?

Genuine question: whether its 1 rep or 30, is JT performing at the level that's required? Because when I'm focused on him when watching our Blue play, he seems to get washed out more times than not no matter what rep it is.

Yeah...first week or so i think isn't a good indicator of much other than who's hurt

I need some Friday night football back in my life

Forgot to add that I'm actually glad you are going a little later in camp as well. The first few days are really kind of unfair to the rookies. They kind of all look like dog crap while they adjust to our game. By week 2 they settle in and you can get a much more accurate read on which ones actually have the skill level because they have gotten over the adjustment period a bit,

I don't agree that Jake has no use to us as a player, but I do agree that the amount of reps he got last year were way too many. He shouldn't be taking more than 10 snaps a game to give someone else a quick breather. That is how he could be an effective player and leader on our team. Of course, last year's usage was dramatically impacted by Lawson's injury, but I totally agree that his reps need to drastically reduced. In a perfect world we wouldn't have a coaching cap and he could come in as an assistant position coach instead...but c'est la vie.

It is nice to get a variety of camp reports from actual fans. Always have to take them with a grain of salt, as everyone has their biases and one day at camp is just a snap shot in time, but for the most part way more informing than anything out in the media. I like to hear about new recruits especially that are standing out, having a rough day, or even looking lazy and lost. As a reader I just have to remember it's one day in camp and not get too high or low on a player. Back when I used to attend camps regularly, I never really posted much about it because I was the type of guy that would sometimes get tunnel vision on one or two players that caught my attention and lock in on them instead of observing camp as a whole. Some camp reports I read were how I observed camp that day, and some were way out in left field making me wonder if that guy even attended or was just making it up. At any rate, I look forward to hearing your camp takes Booch. I love hearing a fan's perspective, especially when the fan knows something about the game. Also, I agree that the media attending spend more time hunting down coffee and donuts, and standing around in a circle yapping with each other than actually paying attention to anything actually going on at field level. Some guys watch the first 10-15 minutes and draw their daily conclusions from that, then it's mostly hang around and visit. Very few stay the whole session either.

we a vet team as it is so his "vet leadership" is neither here nor there.....he should be looked at by coaching staff in the light of, what does he offer us right now, and next yr.....and can that same minimal contribution be replaced with a younger player...one with upside...or possible upside and at a lesser cost....especially with how we construct our ratio in that a National DT isn't really a need...and this should have been done 2...3 yrs ago already It's not a knock on Jake as a guy....moreso Jake the player now...this is pro sports and thats the nature of the beast...It's not charity

Don't care about the NHL. Only the hard cores here will watch & discuss.

Jones was just an awful individual when it came to a lot of things but let's face it, you reward loyalty if you can still play effectively. You don't create loyalty by playing guys who can't do the things they used to do as well anymore just because of longevity. What does that do for the morale of the younger guys forced to sit it out on the sidelines while an aging & fading veteran still gets the majority of playing time? Where the loyalty there? Where the development? Where's the continuity of replacements when it's time? Lots of frustration from the younger players & that could explain why we can't seem to keep our guys for their second contract. Wally never did this. Neither did Huff. Don Matthews from all accounts was a great coach to play for. The veterans loved him but if individual performances of some of those veterans began to slide, those players were gone. That's how it should be. Someone like Jake Thomas should be told it's time to go. Give Jake a nice send off during the season but otherwise sayonara, goodbye.

You have to wonder just WTH the Bombers are thinking. Pressure helps the back end. If you already have a talented defensive backfield hen hurrying passes from opposition qbs just eats offenses up. He had company last year.

That's what happens when the football season is moved up 2-3 weeks & training camps start mid May. We have the SC playoffs going on in Canada. Everyone is paying attention to that. Especially media. Camps should be starting now with the pre season in June & season openers July 1st.

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I mean we can at least put this out into the universe! #DareToDream #AvailableToWork

I hope Ed is at least paying you to be his hype man

i plan to go a bunch by end of month....so you all will have to get my take haha...O've actually been useasonably busy this yr so havnt hung out most of camp like yr prior He doing o.k...But he also in the "employee of" so has his talking points I am sure he is fed He tends to also go along and support whatever Osh feelings on things are too....so there is also that aspect.. yeah....agreed....he toes the line...gives a few more words on what is said in coach/player interviews From exerience at camp...and practices during the yr the local reporters for most part aren't watching anything other than when they hear some whooping or hollerin from players on a nice play....and if they were watchig have no idea of even what they are...or need to watch to see who is actually legit...Thats why it's nice to have forum people there who take an interest in the players...especially new ones to see how they doing...and also can see first hand how some the vets are coddled and gifted spots over guys who worked thier asses off...and are actually better...but not a fav vet