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I mostly agree. usage kicked off his down fall, and that stigma shouldn’t follow him as a coach, but it will for a bit, I don’t think it’ll be long.

absolutely. combine that with the over the hill gang most of the league is starting does the same. if some thing drastic doesn’t happen fast, it’s going to be second tier spring league offences we see each week

The waste of space stigma while he was a player was totally earned, though not entirely his fault. However, it seems to have carried on into people's objections to him coaching and that is what I was talking about. Some are writing him off as a coach and the guy hasn't coached a game yet. They are translating his last few years as a player as if it directly correlates to how good of a coach he might be. I believe that is unfair. Why would you not want your HC to pick a guy he believes will do well and that he can work with? HC's always pick their favorites amongst guys they are familiar with, to become their coordinators and position coaches. That's not entitlement.

Kinda what you want your QB to be good at though.

I think this most recent convo/debate on current CFL QB’s Like Crum, Powell, Ford, Maier etc emphasis again how desperately we need an infusion of premium QB’s in this league.

FIFY

Always 2 there are, a master and and apprentice

One of my favorite skits from her:

I thought it was Sam Hurl?

Rheda Kramdi is out of the dog house?

Grumpy? Okay, Mike. Whatever you say. I'm not going to be drawn into it with you. I won't give you the satisfaction. You want to fight? Go join a boxing club.

didn't everyone get the memo? Kyrie Wilson is the forum whipping boy now.

Who said he never earned the coaching job? The man who has watched him work his job every day for nearly a decade? Or the grumpy senior citizen who watches him on TV but has a mean streak and a keyboard?

An outside chance that will cost $150-200,000 a year. Nope. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3562044787441282 Coach Killer.

He may very well be a shitty coach too. There's always a flip side. He never earned that position. He was given it. I guess I'm tired of the entitlement this team has for Osh favourites. I'd have preferred Thomas go coach junior or CIS & gain experience. Maybe move up to DC & then come back to the CFL in 5-7 years

Powell is FAR superior to Ford. This isn't even debatable.

Ford is a gifted athlete, and from all reports, intelligent. Demski is built like a runningback so it should be doable, and Demski, once he has the ball, moves like a runningback. On pitch-outs, if Ford is a danger to chuck the ball with velocity and accuracy (ALA Tricky-**** Thornton), that ought to give DBs fits.

I doubt Crum or Powell ever becomes a starting QB. I think that Ford still has an outside chance. Our 2nd string should be a guy who can win games and hopefully become a starter in a year or two. Ford could be that guy and in the meantime, he would be a a great short yardage, change of pace, or ride and decide guy.

I don’t think many people here consider ford a legitimate qb. We’ve seen him handed a team several times in multiple situations with talent around him and he just floundered. I don’t think you give up on that guy entirely, But I think he needs to provide strong value and hedge his roster spot vs an american. It’s not hard at all to find a comparable running talent at qb to ford down south. 5200 yards, 16 tds 16 ints 3 years 53 games 7.8 ypa 4651 yards, 29 TDS 19 ints, 4 years 60 games 8.7 ypa Then you add fords rushing yards, it’s pretty lopsided in fords favor. But ford has been handed the starting spot 3 times, and hand better talent around him. Crum fell into starts in awful situations. Crum never had as good a co as fords worst. And awful rb talent. comparable wrs, ol prett similar too. If I had to pick one i’d take ford, but that’s also based on being able to use him in other roles and as a gimmick guy. I wouldn’t bet on ford becoming a regular starting qb. The list of available qbs is beyond ugly this year. Powell is the guy i’d want. after that it’s fliers on guys like evans, maier, and ford. Then you have the pitiful remains of mbts career, and an even uglier pile of scrap heap guys. Even at that, I’d have no interest in maier.

yeah, i mean i love what jake brought here for 5 years. Im hoping for the best for him as a coach.

Why not give him a chance coaching before we judge him? I mean yeah as a player he needed to be gone earlier than he was... but pluggers becoming coaches is a tale as old as time.

There should be no stigma. Direct your disdain for his usage where it belongs. He may very well be an excellent DL coach but many here are writing him off simply because of his name and that is over the top.

I like Crum but wouldn't want him either. If Powell were to shake loose tho.

For me, it's nothing personal against Jake The Person. I know that he's is a nice guy. I'd probably like him if I ever met him. Unfortunately, it has everything to do with Jake The Player & now Jake The Coach. Thomas was given the starting DT position for years much to the detriment of the team. Starting Thomas blocked development for younger guys who needed to play.. When he did play, it usually was sub standard & not up to the level we needed. Now he's been given the DL coaching position by the same head coach who has been gifting him everything for years. Hard not to see the entitlement. That's on Osh for creating that stigma.

Agreed.