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oh what could've been!!

Alexander has 4 seasons under his belt now - he was definitely groomed to take over.

Like every team in the league the long-term hope at QB is the neg list. Not a lot of teams are grooming back-ups to take over. That's why we're still watching Bo, Zach, Faj, and Harris play. Only recent success there is Alexander and Rouke. I guess Kelly too for one and bit seasons.

https://3downnation.com/2025/11/20/the-saskatchewan-roughriders-potential-2026-free-agent-list/ Quite the extensive list. I'm sure lots of guys will want to cash in on the championship success. Good luck keeping the band all together.

Exposed at Wil? I mean, in pass coverage, we had the most vulnerable Mlber in the league. Or more than a bunch of the DBs were early? Teams around the league started rookie NI lbers this year to great success. Cis kids too, not sort of kind of Canadians like Shay and Smith. Smith played a hybrid DB position,l ike how we use the Sam up here in college, too. Wil isn't some high-risk position; it's pretty much the DH of the D. You can hide an awful lot a Wil and Mac in the CFL. That's why it's become a low-risk risk high-reward position to flip the ratio at. Elgersma is basically our long-term hope at QB. But I do mean long term. He needs to be on the AR and getting some work in practice, but I don't see him jumping into starting. QBs do start sooner than ever, but it would be insane if he even kept pace with the line Rourke set. Where he showed promise as a starter in 21 after being drafted in 19, then was pretty bad in a fraction of a season 24, then really finally cemented him self this year as an elite starter. I will be very interested to see how Elgersma progresses, being a CIS kid who got a pre-season in the NFL, but didn't come up here for the end of year. If he had come here and gotten some grooming on the PR, maybe dressed late, that could've been a real career accelerator. But like Walters said, rookie TC is hard for a QB, and it is also the biggest opportunity for one. Unless he is our short yardage guy, I don't expect to see him take a regular season snap next year.

another part of the issue...his ego.....and admitting failure or mistakes...let alone correcting them mid-season...it's non-existent and hurts us too

just more examples of poor coaching and how coaching has killed us in every cup loss....and this season too.... And maybe that wasnt all on the defense but more on ZC himself....Not like ZC had never seen the Argo's or their schemes....again....a good coach may have made a switch...even if just for a series or 2...to see Worked for ARGOS taking a Cup away from us when Dinwiddies Yanked Vet Looney Tunes for raw rookie the Pest.....pretty savvy coaching decision.....How that turn out again? First means nothing tho really if yhou cant finish it off....and we won a lot of reg season games in spite of the things that ail us....wins just glossed over some things and made it seem we good.... I'd rather finish 2nd...3rd....win 9...10 games a yr and win when it mattered....but to each their own I guess where they consider "success|"

Ok but how do you feel about Jason Boltus?

this....And that Our D came in pretty hot in 2022 and 2023 as well.....best in league...fewest points surrendered....and how that turn out? You cant assume that....But safe to assume a QB who was healthy and could actually hang on to a ball...and handle it properly let alone throw....would likely do better than one who couldn't..

a lot of posters here make it sound like this team has been awful. Last year was the only time we didn't finish 1st and that requires changes. Every other year we were in it with a genuine chance to win it going into the games. At some point we need to acknowledge that the job O'Shea and Walters has done is commendable. Theres a reason both Hamilton and Toronto wanted O'Shea. ALso a reason that we have sold out the stadium more than any other team Yeah O'Shea can have blinders on but its usually about some marginal player being replaced by another marginal player. In the overall scheme it didn't cost us the game being discussed. Yes, after last season we need to make changes and retool certain areas namely the oline and dline. Its okay to criticize but at the same time its ok to acknowledge the strengths.

Because it's an obvious example of the blidners this team has had in certain areas that have held them back and led to the situation they are currently in.

Totally. Why are people acting like Collaros would've magically won the game if his hand wasn't injured. The game was toast. Offense was completely unprepared. Collaros had thrown for what, 3 first downs all game until that point in the 4th? He was absolute dogshit in the Grey Cup with a healthy hand

"Near zero" is still better than "zero".

I suggest that O'Shea is promoting a "tweak" because if he conceded that a major rebuild is needed, that would reflect on his management of the team.

Great that you have a crystal ball on that. Cool.

Why the hell are we arguing about the 2024 cup right now. Toronto's D came in hot and would have diced up whoever played at QB. It doesn't matter.

And as I just told someone, he shows up in the playoffs!

Yup thats a fact completely agree but we were put in that position and sticking with ZC was a mistake based on what happened and that’s a fact no matter how one spins it.

Regardless of who the backup was they were a better option than a qb who can't use his hand.

We should've never been in that position where its dole or wilson in a grey cup lol.

I'm pretty sure we did. Idk if we used the most Canadians, but we had several games of 9 starters. Yep. Should be in a good position to get the extra pick atleast.

They regularly started more Canadians then they needed to. If they aren't in the running I'd be shocked. I suppose that depends on your definition of "tweaking".

If you could land Philpot, a trio of Philpot, Demski and Clercius starting, 2 on the OL and 2 on D would likely make us better.

If we keep the overpay contracts like Collaros, how can we afford to upgrade the team around them?

Yep, Wilson, going into GC threw a grand total of 1 pass in his 18 games in the 2024 regular season. He had next to zero experience doing anything but handing the ball off or running a QB sneak. That's the MOS way though, with rookies.