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Zach has had issues with concussions dating back to 2014....in in sask he sat out 6 weeks due to a concussion 2018...Zach is living on borrowed time.....

Yup but he proved he wasn’t done when we picked him up. But he has somewhat regressed to date and with this latest injury the writing may be firmly on the wall to move on to the next phase of his life outside of playing football.

When he faces a tackle he can’t beat or faces double teams he gets really soft. hes so geared towards pass knock downs he barely tries to pass rush any more. which makes it a lot harder on the rest of the dl. then we basically always have 1 often 2 dts on the field who can’t pass rush either. hes still able to turn it on an dominate, if he’s kept in one on ones. I think he needs a wake up call to play each game like it’s the play offs, focus on pass rush and play the lanes with in his rushing, needs to be played with a competent pro quality dl, and needs to be rotated. He should be our naturalized canadian.

So you're fixated on the extra week? The option was to try to extend this season with bracing. And has been done often. Season is well past halfway point. Tried it, didn't go well. Lost a week. No further behind. I'm sure Wade Miller would accept your application for team doctor or head of athletic therapy.

Didnt he have concussions issues when the bombers brought him in?

No...get it fixed...and appropriate rehab...feom cgy game on...that didnt occur There's a.diff between sprains and strains...bumps and bruises...broken bones...and tendons requiring season ending surgery You can play thru...and rehab without surgery sprains and strains...breaks...etc...the latter...no I played 2 seasons with a cast on hand...cause you can Blew knee out 2x....surgery...rehab...slow integration back to part time...then full bore usage Lig...tendon...both require surgery...and thanks for the tip but been thru what Strev has...and once just acl....also a patella issue once too...and was a kinesiology student...so have a decent idea of whats what...sorry for my typo Grammer police 😁

I’m sorry, what?

ACL is a ligament. That's what the L is. I'll just assume you're winning the Powerball based on how great you are at predicting the future.

Zach was basically done when Bombers brought him in(werent teams not picking him up because of his issues with concussions).......and so what are the bombers doing with him now? Doesnt make much sense about his health.

Exactly...regardless what a player says or wants...you have to thank him for his passion and desire..but put him...and key word "team" first U can't rehab a torn acl...u need to surgically repair it...so this "he rehabbed it as best he could" so he could play is a heap of crap Re-tearing a surgically repaired tendon basically last yr post surgery...should be an automatic back to surgery ASAP and fix it and start "actual" rehab Why delay it...for sub par play...and then pooching the whole next season?

Complacency started with coaching...and seaped into the players as a result Part our problem is designating where/who we were using with ratio...and that was that...set in stone...and due to that let probably better...and obviously younger talent go...stayed with status quo...in some instances sub par players...or old and injury prone and didnt develop anyone We also for whatever lame reason insist on extra Canadians where they are not adequate..no offense to Canadians but there only so many who are legit starter quality...we have prob 3..4 on roster who are not...and then we need to roster backup to them as Canadian who are even worse...bad recipe...that's what u gonna also get with a Canadian HC who has this Canadian Bias and seems to be wanting to prove some kind of point...which has failed We need to set ratio as per how camp dictates and the best guys take spots...not pre determine it before a single rep in camp takes place...and that goes with our vets too That's where we gotta start...and in a semi rebuild/gutting...history in pro football has shown 80% of time you start with Coach...and that's what we need to do...12 yrs is eons as a HC in same spot...especially a stubborn and at times arrogant one who thinks his way...is the way and won't deviate Wj is a good piece...key word piece and is only as good as players around him...and for most part they not good...or the better ones can't get on roster...he needs to be the augment rotation guy now to continually spell of 2 young studs All the good dominant teams focus on pretty much mostly import dlines...save for the random Cdn stud...we have no real cdn stud...dress 2 additional duds...and play them ad nauseum for no effect...basically nullify our ends...then play a stupid scheme teams have figured out... There's a start Also...maybe we need to facilitate a trade with an asset or 2...or a guy we all love to infuse some talent in a key position or 2 That or don't treat FA like we did this yr.. Cause they play legit studs...mainly Americans and don't over use weak Canadians Also...those teams don't continually rotate guys in and out like we do...switching positions...nobody...especially on the dline allowed to.get in a groove or rhythm

We are good enough along the lines....full stop, if we had the lines we had in 2019, we are probably easy in first. We have let guys across both lines go for bigger paydays, and haven't drafted strong at either position for a few years.....thus we are now weak across the lines Fix the lines and we get back to winning....look at The Sask and Cal D-lines as an example, they both take over games and no coincidence they are #1 and #2 in the league....

But what is your evidence that the reason we are losing is because of complacency versus the other team having better personnel and coaching? or maybe we’re just misunderstanding each other… Because I agree that coach O’Shea has a “just a few things to correct and we’ll get them next time“ attitude. And so I agree that making roster changes would be helpful. I just think that this regime has made it clear that it’s not willing to do that and also that in pro sports the issue is more likely about personnel than it is about intensity or complacency.

I know it’s saving himself from something else.

People try to look at it binary, injured or not injured. These injuries often never get close to 100%. Everyone is playing with something, everyone has vulnerabilities related to previous injuries. Cleared to play doesn't mean anything close to back where a player was pre injury. And at a certain point sitting out another month doesn't guarantee that you're any less vulnerable....that's when they are cleared to play. There's guys in every organization that get destroyed by lower body injuries, shoulders etc. Mailk Henry went from a torn achilles to ruptured patella right when he came back. Where's Kian Schaffer-Baker? Comes back for a couple games and gets hurt again. MBT was playing with no elbow for 4 weeks because Montreal has no other QB. Davis Alexander is probably going to have to come back again before he's recovered from a soft tissue injury. It's a very hard sport and in any sport athletes get into a cycle of injury once they start having serious ligament and tendon injuries at joints. Do you just tell every person who tears their ACL to retire?

The biggest problem this team has is complacency so yeah I'd rather see a team losing giving it their all than a team losing because "well we'll get em next time"

I tend to agree with your comments. It would appear at least IMHO that Zach has lost some arm strength and is forcing plays. It does not help though that he is playing with the worse OL in front of him. I really can not say which O lineman I would keep next year. IMHO we are weak from tackle to tackle.

Jake Thomas is not injured.

CLEAN HOUSE....it's a short ride to the bottom and that's where we are headed....All of, or most of the warts this club has, was clearly evident in that stinker....I have to give credit to the guys who are still trying to keep this club credible and that's just a few....Cripes even Sergio crapped the bed and that's the clue that some players are starting to see the writing on the wall...I expect that will or most likely be the last full house we'll see in awhile .....most likely have one in the Cup game....you know the game we aren't going to be in..I think Osh better be preparing for his exit along with the gm

Hmm… two issues I see with this… Number one, what evidence is there that the veterans will “start losing jobs”? The best predictor of future behaviour is past behavior. Secondly, not sure how much intensity is the issue or ultimately matters if the other team is just flat out better than you. That’s what Milt implied pregame. I mean, to overstate the situation to make my point, it doesn’t matter how intense I play against Jannik Sinner… I’m not taking a point. 😁 The riders are just better than the bombers. The stamps are just better than the bombers. And Edmonton and BC are comparable to the bombers. It’s hard to accept after the run we had, but we just ain’t that good.

cough cough Jake Thomas cough cough

The 'It's on the player' narrative is wrong. It's on the medical staff. Player's want to play no matter what.

Man...rough week.

The reason I pick him is because he's a supposed leader, and you don't send as much of a message just benching anyone. Like Thomas just sucks, but he gives it his all. You sit down a star for inconsistent effort it forces everyone to look in the mirror.

That's a bit dramatic... for all the stupid things going on both those games were still there for the taking without said stupid things. Start with some roster changes to get the best out of the group you have and go from there.