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Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

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Curse of phil kessel 

Too much money spent on the O side of things and basically ignored the D, which is the real problem. 

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Too much money spent on the O side of things and basically ignored the D, which is the real problem.

I was surprised they went after Kessel when the D was the issue. But it doesn't even seem they are plying a balls to the ball offensive game

Well, it's also only been what? 3 4 games? Gotta give things some time also...  Let's see how they are doing in December... 

What's up with San Jose so far this year? Only given up 1 goal in 3 games? Have not watched any of their games, but what's going on?

LA can't score. It's still early tho.

What's up with San Jose so far this year? Only given up 1 goal in 3 games? Have not watched any of their games, but what's going on?

 

Martin Jones. What a steal if you got him early on in fantasy drafts.

Ducks and kings combined have scored 3 goals in 6 games

Wake up Columbus.

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Wake up Columbus.

Nah, keep em down!

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Jets had Chevy and two scouts in Philly last night:

 

Hockeybuzz:

 

There were several scouts in Philly last night to take in the game between the Flyers and Hawks and the most well represented were the Winnipeg Jets who had their GM and two top scouts in the building. Often times I get to talk to scouts and the reality is they are just taking in the game because they take in games every night and if they are nearby they will attend...

And in regards to probably 5 of the 9 teams in Philly last night I would say that was the case...However, not Winnipeg.

Sources tell me they were scouting "3 to 5 players on the Flyers squad" including Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, and Sam Gagner....bu before we assume this all about Byfuglien, with whom the Flyers have always had interest, I am told in this case it was not about Byfuglien...at least not at this point.

"The Buff deal could happen at some point this season or the Draft," but I am hearing the teams are talking about a different, albeit pretty big, deal.

The Flyers are definitely interested in moving some salary and would like to get help in their own end as well as secondary scoring...

 

 

 

One of the comments I found amusing as when I read it I immediately thought...yeah I might do that.  Throw in a prospect/pick

 

Today @ 1:37 PM ET  
The schenns and Vinny for Buff

Wayne Simmonds or Brayden Schenn :)

It's Eklund so it's bs. Hockeybuzz is the biggest load of crap our there. Just saying.

Logan Couture leaves Sharks practice on crutches. Not good for them, and any poolies that might have him...

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Eklund, yes.  But Chevy and two scouts were at the Flyers game.  So there's that...

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Unless Sanheim or Provorov is involved it makes no sense to the Jets. At all

Ive been a believe in Buff as having lots of value but I dont know... I guess it depends on what offers the Jets get.  Im not sure why getting two or three roster forwards helps the Jets right now.  if Buff goes, a depth D man, sure.  But prospects/pics are better.

 

if its Ladd, then yes, we'd want a top forward in return.

Logan Couture leaves Sharks practice on crutches. Not good for them, and any poolies that might have him...

 

FFS

Wayne Simmonds or Brayden Schenn :)

Simmonds would look great in a Jet's uni.

Buff for Simmonds and Sanheim!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it's Ladd they are looking to move. Forwards make no sense. We need LHD

Buff Ladd Burmi for B Schenn L Schenn or Simmonds Sanheim and a 1st.

Things would be so much easier if both Ladd and Buff were signed, would add to there trade value. 

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If both signed they won't be traded. Not this year anyway.

Both have more value at the deadline now if they remain unsigned. That's when teams who think they are one piece away and loaded for a run will love a pending UFA and give up a lot to get them. And by a lot I mean picks and prospects.

Problem is, the deadline is when we need them too. But quite honestly if both are unsigned I don't care where the Jets are and I don't care how big a role they have. If they are unsigned at the deadline you trade both for maximum return. You simply can't lose them for nothing. The return could set the jets up as a Contender for years

If both signed they won't be traded. Not this year anyway.

Both have more value at the deadline now if they remain unsigned. That's when teams who think they are one piece away and loaded for a run will love a pending UFA and give up a lot to get them. And by a lot I mean picks and prospects.

Problem is, the deadline is when we need them too. But quite honestly if both are unsigned I don't care where the Jets are and I don't care how big a role they have. If they are unsigned at the deadline you trade both for maximum return. You simply can't lose them for nothing. The return could set the jets up as a Contender for years

I don't really agree. If you are entrenched in a playoff hunt you don't trade away two key pieces. No team does and I'm pretty sure the Jets wouldn't.

Hypothetical here. If we are in 1st or 2nd in the Central, do you still trade them?

Just trying to figure out what the cutoff is.

You trade them both to set us up for years but by the point those pieces become contributing members of the team, you have the same decision with Wheeler and Myers ( or Scheifele and Trouba).

What is your point when the Jets become buyers?

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You're probably right. And that would be a huge failure on Chevys part.

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The jets still have good pieces coming. You trade them for a combo of future pics and prospects that are ready in the near term.

You can always package surplus pics and prospects for help now.

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