Separate thread here as Free Agency is pretty much a week away.

 

An interesting tidbit in recent Free Press article:

 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/Burmistrovs-future-big-storyline-for-Jets-at-draft-309360161.html

 

 

 

We’re all dealing with trying to sign RFAs or UFAs and not having a solid number in front of you makes things a little bit difficult, difficult from a signing standpoint and difficult from a player agreeing standpoint. Everyone wants to know what might be available out there for him. We’re entering another unique part of the CBA where you have an interview period which starts on Thursday (where teams can ‘court’ prospective free agents in advance ot the market opening on July 1st). That’s a different phenomenon that we’re all learning the ins and outs from that standpoint. I guess once all things come into play and now you know you’re number, you can really start making your final plans for how you can move forward."

 

So while I know that talks with Frolik have apparently begun to "heat" up, if we don't get a deal done by Thursday he will be able to start getting a feel for what kind of money and term other teams would be willing to give him.

 

Must be the busiest time of the year for GMs with the Draft this weekend and Free Agency soon after.

 

With GMs able to talk to agents on Thursday, and pretty much all agents and GMs being at the draft, I expect a huge flurry of singings July 1st when they can officially submit contracts.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Hawks-Extend-Seabrook-For-Eight-Years-Good-Deal/1/71229

 

 

6.85m per year for 8 years!!!!!!!

wow

I guess this helps the Jets' negotiations with Buff?

No way he is worth more than Seabrook.

Both born in '85 but I would NEVER give Buff an eight year contract.

@MarkLazerus: Brent Seabrook's deal confirmed at eight years, $55 million. AAV is $6.875.

If my math is correct, after this season the Hawks will have 48.788462m tied up in 7 players...not much left for the other guys is there.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Hawks-Extend-Seabrook-For-Eight-Years-Good-Deal/1/71229

 

 

6.85m per year for 8 years!!!!!!!

wow

I guess this helps the Jets' negotiations with Buff?

No way he is worth more than Seabrook.

Both born in '85 but I would NEVER give Buff an eight year contract.

Whats with signing 30yr old Dmen to 7-8yr contracts?!?!

They still have a year left so their contracts don't start until the 2016-2017 season!

Chicago will have $49M tied up in 7 players for the next 5 years.

 

Cap is $71.4M right now.  The floor is $52.8M

It's not so much his age as his questionably soft melon that concerns me.

Chicago might have decisions to make every summer. But locking up that core they probably feel they can surround them with less expensive supporting characters and/or young players and have a shot every year

That Seabrook contract is terrible for Buff negs....  8 years???

Buff won't get 8 years, no chance, Seabrook is actually a better d man than Buff is, I honestly could see Buff signing like a 4 year deal worth 24-28 million so between 6 and 7 a year really.. If not, I think he probably gets traded.

 

The UFA market is changing it seems, teams seem to be not willing to give out long term big money contracts to guys who are older...

 

Chicago and Seabrook is irrelevant because Seabrook is chicagos property.. 

 

I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Both Buff and Ladd are traded and honestly, depending on what we get back in return, I don't think i'd  be opposed to it.

 

The way i see this, it's time to **** or get off the pot with these 2... Offer Ladd your best deal, take it or leave it really, if he says thank but no thanks.. move him.

 

Do the same to buff, thanks but no thanks, you move him too.

Keep Ladd. Trade buff. Need Ladd a lot more than we need buff.

Keep both if possible. But we're not going to lose trouba, scheif, Lowry, Ehlers, Myers etc because we can't afford them

And kept buff instead.

For Buff, if the term isn't 8 years (and I hope it is not), then his AAV will probably have to be higher than Seabrook's.  

 

I suspect they are still looking for at least 7.5+

If both want more than 5 or 6 years for big money, they can move on.

 

Ladd is ok,  but he's not one of the best players in the league, sure he might pop 30 and get 30 assists, he's a 60 point player now but what about in 2 or 3 years from now when guys like Petan,Ehlers,Armia,Connor etc are around... 

 

The worst thing we could do is sign ladd and buff to long term big money deals... That's the worst thing, cuz whether people want to admit or not, when this team is actually competitive on a regular basis and not a bubble team like we were last year or probably be this year, Ladd and Buff won't be around and if they are.. ladd will be on the third line and buff will be on the third D pair... 

 

Lets say ladd wants 6 years and 36 million, it's probably more tho... that's great now but in 3 or 4 years, is it worth it to pay a 3rd liner 6 million a year?

 

Nope. The cap isn't going to go up anytime soon, the loonie is falling. It's not worth it. 

 

You build around the Scheifs,Troubas,Lowrys,Myers,Morrisseys,Ehlers and Petans... Not around the Ladd and Buffs. 

 

Would really suck if we lost a young player because we over paid ladd and buff just because... 

Chevy can\t let this go into the season, give agents best offer for both players, no negotiations during the season. They always become distractions to the team and player. 

@FriedgeHNIC: Nothing concrete, but it sounds like TOR is preparing to officially sign Brad Boyes.

I see Ladd as someone who will continue to contribute as he diminishes though. Start a new contract as 1LW. End it as a good 3LW.

THE BOSTON GLOBE: Fluto Shinzawa weighed in on the recent “Dustin Byfuglien to the Bruins” speculation that arose in the wake of defenseman Dennis Seidenberg being sidelined for two months by back surgery. He suggested the Jets “would want one of the Bruins’ two 2016 first-rounders and help off the roster.” Given the Jets depth in goaltending prospects, Shinzawa doubts they’d have interest in promising Bruins netminder Malcolm Subban.

Buff won't get 8 years, no chance, Seabrook is actually a better d man than Buff is, I honestly could see Buff signing like a 4 year deal worth 24-28 million so between 6 and 7 a year really.. If not, I think he probably gets traded.

 

The UFA market is changing it seems, teams seem to be not willing to give out long term big money contracts to guys who are older...

 

Chicago and Seabrook is irrelevant because Seabrook is chicagos property.. 

 

I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Both Buff and Ladd are traded and honestly, depending on what we get back in return, I don't think i'd  be opposed to it.

 

The way i see this, it's time to **** or get off the pot with these 2... Offer Ladd your best deal, take it or leave it really, if he says thank but no thanks.. move him.

 

Do the same to buff, thanks but no thanks, you move him too.

Honest count = 3

 

Goalie is totally trustworthy

No doubt the Bruins are going to be a poor on defense and with Seidenberg  out with a injury that's not  easy to come back from, and Chara with his problems they might decide that they need help. On the other hand they probably know that they are not a  playoff team this year and go with what they have.

Can't underestimate Bruins Doing something goofy. The benefit to Buff is he's a UFA but what they would want to give up for one year of buff won't be what the jets want to part with him

Keep Ladd. Trade buff. Need Ladd a lot more than we need buff.

Keep both if possible. But we're not going to lose trouba, scheif, Lowry, Ehlers, Myers etc because we can't afford them

And kept buff instead.

I'd argue that Ladd, on ice, can be replaced easier than Buff.

Keep Ladd. Trade buff. Need Ladd a lot more than we need buff.

Keep both if possible. But we're not going to lose trouba, scheif, Lowry, Ehlers, Myers etc because we can't afford them

And kept buff instead.

I'd argue that Ladd, on ice, can be replaced easier than Buff.

I agree

Ladd is way more consistent than than buff. And buff has already been replaced by Myers and Trouba to a great extent

Kyle Connor. Nic Petan. Nik Ehlers. All guys who could take Ladds spot.

Not much for D prospects outside of Morrissey

Kyle Connor. Nic Petan. Nik Ehlers. All guys who could take Ladds spot.

Not much for D prospects outside of Morrissey

In what way can Nic Petan and Ehlers take Ladds spot?? And Connor isn't even in camp. Absurd.

Also Buff is arguably 3RHD behind Myers and Trouba. Not in all situations but of we could only keep two it wouldn't be buff

You're too busy thinking of the now when you should be thinking 5 years from now. Is 35 year old Ladd worth 6 6.5 million bucks a year?

Buff is the bigger impact player tho. He can dominate when he wants too. Ladd can't. Don't get me wrong I want Ladd to sign but if he doesn't soon... see if buff can and move on. Going in to the season with both Ladd and Buff as UFAS to be Is not good.