So disappointed to here Burke's comments about how good the team is, how vastly improved they are and how they are on the "cusp".

Worse, hearing Goltz parrot that same verbiage.

Sounds like the team was given a PR release and told to use the word.

Montreal fires their head coach. We pay ourselves on the back for not being blown out.

Disgraceful. Mack left the cupboards bare as far as coaching goes. We literally cannot fire any of our coaches as we have no one to replace them.

So disappointed to here Burke's comments about how good the team is, how vastly improved they are and how they are on the "cusp".

Worse, hearing Goltz parrot that same verbiage.

Sounds like the team was given a PR release and told to use the word.

Montreal fires their head coach. We pay ourselves on the back for not being blown out.

Disgraceful. Mack left the cupboards bare as far as coaching goes. We literally cannot fire any of our coaches as we have no one to replace them.

Burke never said the team was "good"or that they "vastly improved". We lost to the Lions , a very good team, by 7 points with a QB making his 2 carreer pro start. I know you have a massive man crush on Buck but coming on here to misquote Burke to try and make him look bad is rather pathetic.

I heared the same thing The Unknown Poster heard & thought it was garbage. Absolute garbage.

I'm a fan of Burke dipshit so no I was not misquoting to make him look bad. If knowing buck has been better than Goltz is a man crush then you're nuts.

Did i just miss the part where he said "vastly improved?"

The cusp part annoyed me as well. I think we have some talent but after the past 3.5 years, I am leary of any on the cusp talk.

I'm a fan of Burke dipshit so no I was not misquoting to make him look bad. If knowing buck has been better than Goltz is a man crush then you're nuts.

isn't goltz qb rating higher then Pierce?

Even when Goltz is sleeping, and on the cusp of a deep sleep, his QB rating is higher than Buck's.

I'm a fan of Burke dipshit so no I was not misquoting to make him look bad. If knowing buck has been better than Goltz is a man crush then you're nuts.

 

a) Buck hasn't been better

calling someone a "dipshit" isn't going to fly, so let's not let that happen again please.

c) Even if Buck had been better, I'd certainly hope that isn't the ceiling he's expected to reach as a 7 year CFL veteran.

Accusations and calling people pathetic shouldn't be acceptable here either. Just saying.

Anyways, I hate it too when I hear Burke say how close we are. We have a good D, terrible special teams and worse offence. This team is in no way close. If we lose both Hamilton games, the season is over. Now that I WOULD call "close".

If we lose to Hamilton the season is not over.  Heck, if we lose to Hamilton twice and Saskatchewan twice the season is not over.  That's just the nature of the CFL. 

 

Right now the Bombers are 2 points from being tied for second place and 4 points out of first place.

 

What else do you expect the coach to say?

 

Keep in mind the Bombers were tied with the Lions in the fourth quarter, who are a damn good team playing at home.

 

All Burke is doing is rallying the troops.  Let's not over react.

If people think going potentially 6-12 and miraculously making the playoffs ahead of Edm and Ham I suggest they set there expectations a little higher.

No one in the Bomber offices is blind. They know, standings aside, this team is a long way from being competitive.

 

The big blow up is only a matter of time.

I'm a fan of Burke dipshit so no I was not misquoting to make him look bad. If knowing buck has been better than Goltz is a man crush then you're nuts.

Show your source then. As far as the Buck comments go, I have asked you several times to justify your opinion as to why you think Buck is so much better than Goltz and you never can or do.

Accusations and calling people pathetic shouldn't be acceptable here either. Just saying.

Accusations like the ones you were making? And I called your actions/intentions rather pathetic,not you personally so relax.

Show your source then. As far as the Buck comments go, I have asked you several times to justify your opinion as to why you think Buck is so much better than Goltz and you never can or do.

 

One guy used to be very good but isn't even serviceable anymore -- the other has shown sparks but isn't ready to lead a (struggling) team yet.

 

Great place to be. Thanks Joe Mack! 

Buck's still more accurate than Goltz, better decision maker, too.

 

Those things may come in time for Goltz.  Or they may not.

Buck's still more accurate than Goltz, better decision maker, too.

hahahahahahahaha you know how I know that you're full of **** and haven't really watched Buck Pierce play the game this season? 

Buck's still more accurate than Goltz, better decision maker, too.

 

Those things may come in time for Goltz.  Or they may not.

 

Yeah this is pretty preposterous. Goltz may not have the best accuracy in the world but even in limited action, he hit his receivers in the hands on more regularity than Buck did this season and last. There is no excuse for air-mailing receivers the way Buck does with regularity.

 

As far as decision making goes? How often did Goltz sit in the pocket forever and concede a sack? Once? I can't think of more than once and that was the last play of the game. Did he make a few bad reads and lock onto his primary receiver a few times? Of course, yes. But I would argue first of all that it was his second career start and the amount of times he locked onto his primary read was less than Buck's average per game and Buck is a bloody seven year veteran!

Not only is Goltz making better decisions than PIerce, he's making decisions way way faster. It really blows my mind how anyone can seriously look at the way Pierce played the game this season and even try and defend it

60.4% vs 57.7% accuracy.

 

Receivers have dropped passes from both.

 

As far as decision making, fast doesn't always equal right.  Can't believe I have to explain that.  Goltz had the lowest gain per pass in the league in that last game because he continues to throw it too early.

60.4% vs 57.7% accuracy.

Receivers have dropped passes from both.

As far as decision making, fast doesn't always equal right. Can't believe I have to explain that. Goltz had the lowest gain per pass in the league in that last game because he continues to throw it too early.

Maybe it's the play calling? Lots of short passes?

Buck should have much longer passes considering they continually have him in max protection.

What's the stats between both guys for rushing? I'm going to eager goltz had much more yards and TDs. What's the stats for interceptions?

 But I would argue first of all that it was his second career start

 

Now you're changing the argument.  I'm talking about right now, not how he projects in the future (which you and I have no way of knowing).

You guys are trying to put a band aid on flesh eating disease.... But still part of the unresolved giant Bomber puzzle

Buck has more yards per completion and a higher completion percentage.  The numbers don't lie, sorry guys.  I know you all hate Buck Pierce but Pierce being bad doesn't equal Goltz being good.  Sorry, doesn't work that way.