Bombers at Als early chat

[WinnipegGordo]

Doesn't appear to be any injured Bomber players from the Ottawa game.

Lawson should be back in for Thursdays game.

Logan looks to be an option as he's practicing. 

[BomberBall.]

23 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Might be back for Labour Day

 

 

I’m a bit surprised he’s back practicing.  Could be a real nice boost to the offense….  If he’s actually 100%.

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Doesn't appear to be any injured Bomber players from the Ottawa game.

Lawson should be back in for Thursdays game.

Logan looks to be an option as he's practicing. 

I wonder if we take a DI Lber off the AR for Logan, and carry both he and Vaval. Logan would be the 2nd return guy on Kick offs and could be a rotational piece on O. Atleast in theory any way.

Don't really want to see Schoen back till he is at what ever his new 100% is. 

[WinnipegGordo]

No changes to the starters:

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by WinnipegGordo

[Noeller]

Saw a pic on FB and Schoen practicing with a large bulky brace on his knee... For what that's worth. 

[rebusrankin]

Logan on for say Ayers would make sense and could be a boost to both the return game and the offense. If Lawson is back, do they go Lawson, Schmekel and Jake or take one off (cough JAKE cough)?

[wbbfan]

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

Logan on for say Ayers would make sense and could be a boost to both the return game and the offense. If Lawson is back, do they go Lawson, Schmekel and Jake or take one off (cough JAKE cough)?

Unfortunately, we haven't been using Jjones much. I would expect him to come off as a DI before Ayers at this point. 

 I would also bet that someone like Ball is more likely to come off for Lawson. Thomas would be the dream, but I dare not hope for that. 

[WinnipegGordo]

14 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Saw a pic on FB and Schoen practicing with a large bulky brace on his knee... For what that's worth. 

 

 

[17to85]

Osh ain't taking Thomas off the roster unless he was dead and even then it's 50/50

[rebusrankin]

Ayers is a poor use of a roster spot but MOS is a stubborn SOB so you know....

[WinnipegGordo]

15 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Unfortunately, we haven't been using Jjones much. I would expect him to come off as a DI before Ayers at this point. 

 I would also bet that someone like Ball is more likely to come off for Lawson. Thomas would be the dream, but I dare not hope for that. 

Thats how I see it. I'm at practice and Ayers is getting rotated in with the starters and is playing special teams.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, captaincanuck12 said:

I am not sure what to expect from this game.

Bombers need to not look past this game to Labour Day.   

They better not- that would scare the prunes out of them,

[Booch]

9 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Ayers is a poor use of a roster spot but MOS is a stubborn SOB so you know....

makes sense as Osh is a poor curator of a roster...right from game One in his inaugural season...and after 12 yrs still is bad at it....it never gonna change

Ayers off for Woods makes most sense......J.Jones when used a lot on defiance in that initial game that Griffin went to SAM...Well the defense looked like night and day....Lat game and the one previous....he barely got on the field, and the defense again has issues.....

Smart move too would be to sit Thomas a few games and roll With Lawson and Schmeck....do we see the smart move.....probably not. And yeah Ball made 2 plays last game.....as opposed to none his other 3....so really swapping him out for Bailey or even Vibert to get some snaps and see what he adds would make sense too....but we lack in the sense department as well

4 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Thats how I see it. I'm at practice and Ayers is getting rotated in with the starters and is playing special teams.

Jones been real good on trams tho too....Ayers gets used out of position...so why not just put Bailey on for what they use Ayers for and then figure out who of Woods and Logan gets on...we need to be tinkering and seeing what our best options are

[Tracker]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

makes sense as Osh is a poor curator of a roster...right from game One in his inaugural season...and after 12 yrs still is bad at it....it never gonna change

Ayers off for Woods makes most sense......J.Jones when used a lot on defiance in that initial game that Griffin went to SAM...Well the defense looked like night and day....Lat game and the one previous....he barely got on the field, and the defense again has issues.....

Smart move too would be to sit Thomas a few games and roll With Lawson and Schmeck....do we see the smart move.....probably not. And yeah Ball made 2 plays last game.....as opposed to none his other 3....so really swapping him out for Bailey or even Vibert to get some snaps and see what he adds would make sense too....but we lack in the sense department as well

True but sad. Very sad.

[WinnipegGordo]

Yeah, I was thinking of Bailey on for Ayers. May see it on Labour Day to get Houston or another DB onto the roster.

[wbbfan]

24 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Ayers is a poor use of a roster spot but MOS is a stubborn SOB so you know....

It sucks, I really Like Ayers and Jjones too. But we refuse to use them on D, and you just can't bury all your DI talent with guys who don't contribute on D/O. 

On teams, Ayers has seen a ton of double teams this year and is still making solid plays. I think his value for a purely Teams Di is the highest of anyone outside of Sergio.

12 minutes ago, Booch said:

makes sense as Osh is a poor curator of a roster...right from game One in his inaugural season...and after 12 yrs still is bad at it....it never gonna change

Ayers off for Woods makes most sense......J.Jones when used a lot on defiance in that initial game that Griffin went to SAM...Well the defense looked like night and day....Lat game and the one previous....he barely got on the field, and the defense again has issues.....

Smart move too would be to sit Thomas a few games and roll With Lawson and Schmeck....do we see the smart move.....probably not. And yeah Ball made 2 plays last game.....as opposed to none his other 3....so really swapping him out for Bailey or even Vibert to get some snaps and see what he adds would make sense too....but we lack in the sense department as well

Jones been real good on trams tho too....Ayers gets used out of position...so why not just put Bailey on for what they use Ayers for and then figure out who of Woods and Logan gets on...we need to be tinkering and seeing what our best options are

Maaaaaan, getting Woods on and Thomas off would be HUGE for our D. Woods and Adams inside more would be incredible. Take Kyrie out, and roll with the Jones' and Ayers with the Dime/wil package. And get Shay/Smith in some as well. Then the DL with Lawson and Schmek to rotate inside, Person and put bailey on to rotate on the edge. That front would be devastating to other teams Os. Getting Dandy on would be huge as well. 

Griffin is such a gem, excels in any play call, position, no matter who you have around him. He's Nichols 2.0. 

I'm interested to see what we do with Vanterpool when he is healthy again. I'm not sure Wallace will be coming off. 

[17to85]

7 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

D. Woods and Adams inside more would be incredible. Take Kyrie out, and roll with the Jones' and Ayers with the Dime/wil package. And get Shay/Smith in some as well. Then the DL with Lawson and Schmek to rotate inside, Person and put bailey on to rotate on the edge. That front would be devastating to other teams Os. Getting Dandy on would be huge as well. 

It makes too much sense! 

[Booch]

17 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

It sucks, I really Like Ayers and Jjones too. But we refuse to use them on D, and you just can't bury all your DI talent with guys who don't contribute on D/O. 

On teams, Ayers has seen a ton of double teams this year and is still making solid plays. I think his value for a purely Teams Di is the highest of anyone outside of Sergio.

Maaaaaan, getting Woods on and Thomas off would be HUGE for our D. Woods and Adams inside more would be incredible. Take Kyrie out, and roll with the Jones' and Ayers with the Dime/wil package. And get Shay/Smith in some as well. Then the DL with Lawson and Schmek to rotate inside, Person and put bailey on to rotate on the edge. That front would be devastating to other teams Os. Getting Dandy on would be huge as well. 

Griffin is such a gem, excels in any play call, position, no matter who you have around him. He's Nichols 2.0. 

I'm interested to see what we do with Vanterpool when he is healthy again. I'm not sure Wallace will be coming off. 

yeah we have the guys here, and the skill sets to really set our defense on the right track....but sooooo stubborn clinging to guys who just dont make us our best....but Osh likes them....so they remain

And agree...Wallace needs to stay on....yo-yopng him around is not the best thing for him....and who knows...could sit in his mind and be a deciding factor in him bolting

24 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Yeah, I was thinking of Bailey on for Ayers. May see it on Labour Day to get Houston or another DB onto the roster.

Bailey can come on as the 45th guy for a Canadian...so take pick of Ball or Thomas...

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BomberBall.]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

It sucks, I really Like Ayers and Jjones too. But we refuse to use them on D, and you just can't bury all your DI talent with guys who don't contribute on D/O. 

On teams, Ayers has seen a ton of double teams this year and is still making solid plays. I think his value for a purely Teams Di is the highest of anyone outside of Sergio.

Maaaaaan, getting Woods on and Thomas off would be HUGE for our D. Woods and Adams inside more would be incredible. Take Kyrie out, and roll with the Jones' and Ayers with the Dime/wil package. And get Shay/Smith in some as well. Then the DL with Lawson and Schmek to rotate inside, Person and put bailey on to rotate on the edge. That front would be devastating to other teams Os. Getting Dandy on would be huge as well. 

Griffin is such a gem, excels in any play call, position, no matter who you have around him. He's Nichols 2.0. 

I'm interested to see what we do with Vanterpool when he is healthy again. I'm not sure Wallace will be coming off. 

Man, I would love to see all of that….  And it’s so frustrating to know that likely none of it will happen.

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

It sucks, I really Like Ayers and Jjones too. But we refuse to use them on D, and you just can't bury all your DI talent with guys who don't contribute on D/O. 

On teams, Ayers has seen a ton of double teams this year and is still making solid plays. I think his value for a purely Teams Di is the highest of anyone outside of Sergio.

Maaaaaan, getting Woods on and Thomas off would be HUGE for our D. Woods and Adams inside more would be incredible. Take Kyrie out, and roll with the Jones' and Ayers with the Dime/wil package. And get Shay/Smith in some as well. Then the DL with Lawson and Schmek to rotate inside, Person and put bailey on to rotate on the edge. That front would be devastating to other teams Os. Getting Dandy on would be huge as well. 

Griffin is such a gem, excels in any play call, position, no matter who you have around him. He's Nichols 2.0. 

I'm interested to see what we do with Vanterpool when he is healthy again. I'm not sure Wallace will be coming off. 

He may have been rusty or out of position, but I didn't see Vanterpool as exceptionally good at LT, and with an aging Big Stan, plus an increasingly brittle Collaros, that has to be a concern.

[Pete]

Even adding woods as a extra dlineman would be beneficial, most teams run with 8 dlinemen, last game both our dline and oline looked gassed

  Also Adams  hasn't been as effective recently, Younger has been utilizing both Smeckle and Thomas instead for run stopping 

[Mark H.]

I appreciated Younger's answer when he was asked why they let both Bighill and Alexander go at the same time, given how important leadership and communication are.

"The other side of that is the physical toll that the game takes.  Either way, you have a challenge.  Whether the challenge is communication or physical limitations - you choose your challenge."