GCn20 Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Thing is, we don't know what Wilson can do. I'd like to see him get some playing time. I have a feeling this team will at some point go full speed rebuild so why keep an older injured qb on the roster? Why keep any veteran? Because the goal is to win now. You can't just throw every veteran out the door because a new kid arrives. We don't know what Wilson can do, but the coaches do. They have deemed him to be behind that veteran and therefore the most replaceable QB on our AR. Edited 9 hours ago by GCn20 johnzo 1
Bubba Zanetti Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 13 hours ago, wbbfan said: elgersma also cut. might make the pr, though clifford knows the system. Where did you see this? As far as i can see online there havent been any cuts announced yet.
wbbfan Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 26 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Thing is, we don't know what Wilson can do. I'd like to see him get some playing time. I have a feeling this team will at some point go full speed rebuild so why keep an older injured qb on the roster? I'd rather see him in more game action, but that would mean losing games. I don't want to get rid of him, but I also don't think he ends up being an impact qb. Still seems all tools no intangibles. I would keep an older qb on the roster because even older and injured they both provide more value. 3 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Where did you see this? As far as i can see online there havent been any cuts announced yet. I think I was duped by a couple of cut projection lists, actually, my bad. Bubba Zanetti 1
Bubba Zanetti Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago I wouldnt be surprised to see Elgersma stick over Clifford as QB3. He outplayed him by a large margin in preseason. Four years younger and has higher upside. rebusrankin and bigg jay 1 1
GCn20 Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Bubba Zanetti said: I wouldnt be surprised to see Elgersma stick over Clifford as QB3. He outplayed him by a large margin in preseason. Four years younger and has higher upside. At this point I could see Elgersma easily getting but on the Packers PR. rebusrankin and bigg jay 2
bigg jay Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: I wouldnt be surprised to see Elgersma stick over Clifford as QB3. He outplayed him by a large margin in preseason. Four years younger and has higher upside. Clifford is also on his 3rd year with the Packers but hasn't really progressed. He's gone from second string to PR to being outplayed by a raw rookie so yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they try to develop Elgersma either. Bubba Zanetti 1
ShyGuy Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago I think Elgersma also gets helped a bit by the International Player Pathway... because he is a Canadian out of USports I think that the Packers can get an exemption to keep him on the PR where he doesn't take up a Practice Roster slot.
GCn20 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 57 minutes ago, ShyGuy said: I think Elgersma also gets helped a bit by the International Player Pathway... because he is a Canadian out of USports I think that the Packers can get an exemption to keep him on the PR where he doesn't take up a Practice Roster slot. He is not eligible for the NFL International Player Pathway. Must be outside US/Canada passport. Doesn't matter where you played college, just passport designation. Edited 7 hours ago by GCn20 bigg jay 1
ShyGuy Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 43 minutes ago, GCn20 said: He is not eligible for the NFL International Player Pathway. Must be outside US/Canada passport. Doesn't matter where you played college, just passport designation. Interesting. My source is a couple of Packers blogs saying that he does qualify https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/5/19/24433214/green-bay-packers-news-taylor-elgersma-international-exemption-2025 https://thepackerspost.com/packers-made-a-smart-move-by-signing-qb-taylor-elgersma/ Weirdly enough in the Wiki entry to the IPP it states that "Some of these criteria have either changed over time or there is some discretion applied during the selection process, as not all the athletes that have come through the program in the intervening years meet all of the following criteria." so maybe there have been some changes or maybe those blogs are just misinformed.
wbbfan Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, ShyGuy said: Interesting. My source is a couple of Packers blogs saying that he does qualify https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/5/19/24433214/green-bay-packers-news-taylor-elgersma-international-exemption-2025 https://thepackerspost.com/packers-made-a-smart-move-by-signing-qb-taylor-elgersma/ Weirdly enough in the Wiki entry to the IPP it states that "Some of these criteria have either changed over time or there is some discretion applied during the selection process, as not all the athletes that have come through the program in the intervening years meet all of the following criteria." so maybe there have been some changes or maybe those blogs are just misinformed. Unless it was just changed, the IPP does not apply to Canadians. It only applies to kids born outside of North America. If it was included, we would be seeing a lot more first through 4th round pick types sitting in the NFL for a year. Seriously, it would completely decimate our draft. I beleive players have to be signed to the IPP in the first place as well, I don't think they can be recerftified to IPP after signing.
wbbfan Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago I still hope He sticks for a year on the PR down south. And I think his chances should be pretty good with one team or another. Not only does he have the raw upside, but he's managed to translate that to gameplay in the pre-season. That's a big deal especially for a high upside raw talent guy.
GCn20 Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, ShyGuy said: Interesting. My source is a couple of Packers blogs saying that he does qualify https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/5/19/24433214/green-bay-packers-news-taylor-elgersma-international-exemption-2025 https://thepackerspost.com/packers-made-a-smart-move-by-signing-qb-taylor-elgersma/ Weirdly enough in the Wiki entry to the IPP it states that "Some of these criteria have either changed over time or there is some discretion applied during the selection process, as not all the athletes that have come through the program in the intervening years meet all of the following criteria." so maybe there have been some changes or maybe those blogs are just misinformed. By rule no players of American or Canadian citizenship qualify. Your blogger is incorrect. wbbfan 1
bigg jay Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, ShyGuy said: Interesting. My source is a couple of Packers blogs saying that he does qualify https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/5/19/24433214/green-bay-packers-news-taylor-elgersma-international-exemption-2025 https://thepackerspost.com/packers-made-a-smart-move-by-signing-qb-taylor-elgersma/ Weirdly enough in the Wiki entry to the IPP it states that "Some of these criteria have either changed over time or there is some discretion applied during the selection process, as not all the athletes that have come through the program in the intervening years meet all of the following criteria." so maybe there have been some changes or maybe those blogs are just misinformed. Straight from the NFL website: What is the International Player Pathway Quote What Qualifies as an International Player: A qualifying international player is a person whose citizenship and principal place of residence are outside the United States and Canada, and who have a maximum of two years of United States high school experience. In addition, an international player must (i) satisfy all NFL player eligibility rules and (ii) have been eligible for a prior NFL Draft. rebusrankin, TBURGESS and wbbfan 2 1
GCn20 Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: Unless it was just changed, the IPP does not apply to Canadians. It only applies to kids born outside of North America. If it was included, we would be seeing a lot more first through 4th round pick types sitting in the NFL for a year. Seriously, it would completely decimate our draft. I beleive players have to be signed to the IPP in the first place as well, I don't think they can be recerftified to IPP after signing. Canadians don't count, this was one of the good things that Randy Ambrosie got the NFL to do to help the CFL. They originally were looking at including us. I knew this because there was a short blurp on TSN about it at the time. I don't think anyone in the media realized just how big a win that was for our league because it was a buried story and it deserved much more headlines. Edited 5 hours ago by GCn20 Booch and wbbfan 1 1
Booch Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 43 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Canadians don't count, this was one of the good things that Randy Ambrosie got the NFL to do to help the CFL. They originally were looking at including us. I knew this because there was a short blurp on TSN about it at the time. I don't think anyone in the media realized just how big a win that was for our league because it was a buried story and it deserved much more headlines. Earned a couple scarfs for that smart thinking bigg jay and wbbfan 1 1
wbbfan Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 58 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Canadians don't count, this was one of the good things that Randy Ambrosie got the NFL to do to help the CFL. They originally were looking at including us. I knew this because there was a short blurp on TSN about it at the time. I don't think anyone in the media realized just how big a win that was for our league because it was a buried story and it deserved much more headlines. 14 minutes ago, Booch said: Earned a couple scarfs for that smart thinking 100%, that would've crushed us. rebusrankin 1
GCn20 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, wbbfan said: 100%, that would've crushed us. I'm thinking the CFL would have had to reduce NAT starting roster spots. 32 extra spots for NAT players in the NFL would be a disaster for us. We would have likely lost 8-10 more of our best NATs a year. Edited 4 hours ago by GCn20 Booch 1
wbbfan Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: I'm thinking the CFL would have had to reduce NAT starting roster spots. Very likely, but the talent level overall would've dipped and made the game much harder to watch, especially for casual fans. Like the late 90s when the gap between imps and nis was gigantic. We would've been hit hard league-wide at OL. I think most teams would've had to start 3-4 imports. We had a lot of good ni ol in that time who likely would've been the prime targets. Booch 1
GCn20 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 45 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Very likely, but the talent level overall would've dipped and made the game much harder to watch, especially for casual fans. Like the late 90s when the gap between imps and nis was gigantic. We would've been hit hard league-wide at OL. I think most teams would've had to start 3-4 imports. We had a lot of good ni ol in that time who likely would've been the prime targets. No doubt. I think we would have had to cut our NAT starter numbers in half and probably trim overall roster numbers to keep our game from scrubs being played. wbbfan 1
Goalie Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, GCn20 said: No doubt. I think we would have had to cut our NAT starter numbers in half and probably trim overall roster numbers to keep our game from scrubs being played. Every team would then start a Jake Thomas. Not just us. So just Wilson confirmed currently. Any other bombers related or maybe cfl free agent related cuts? Manu? Elgersma? Any non bombers cfl free agents cuts we could use? Edited 3 hours ago by Goalie
bigg jay Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 55 minutes ago, Goalie said: Every team would then start a Jake Thomas. Not just us. So just Wilson confirmed currently. Any other bombers related or maybe cfl free agent related cuts? Manu? Elgersma? Any non bombers cfl free agents cuts we could use? Manu isn't going anywhere. The Lions are happy with his progress, even if he's still a project for them. Packers are announcing their cuts tomorrow apparently so we'll find out soon enough but I don't expect Elgersma to be released. Noeller 1
wbbfan Posted 39 minutes ago Report Posted 39 minutes ago 1 hour ago, bigg jay said: Manu isn't going anywhere. The Lions are happy with his progress, even if he's still a project for them. Packers are announcing their cuts tomorrow apparently so we'll find out soon enough but I don't expect Elgersma to be released. i expect both elgersma and manu to start out on the pr out of camp
Booch Posted 34 minutes ago Report Posted 34 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, wbbfan said: i expect both elgersma and manu to start out on the pr out of camp yup....and with Manu he has improved, but still 4th on depth chart...next yr is the yr for him to show he has earned a spot, as they will only put so much time into it...if 3 yrs in he not on the 53...they will likley move on wbbfan 1
wbbfan Posted 27 minutes ago Report Posted 27 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Booch said: yup....and with Manu he has improved, but still 4th on depth chart...next yr is the yr for him to show he has earned a spot, as they will only put so much time into it...if 3 yrs in he not on the 53...they will likley move on he has, kid is soaking it up down there. he’s doing all the right things and working full time with the right people. the nfl will pass him by if he doesn’t crack an ar this year or gets hurt, it’s all gonna end real fast. tbh i think he deserves a shot on the ar of an nfl this year. I don’t think the lions are willing to take the plunge which is silly. they say they do but he’s camped on the back end of the depth chart. Which happens a lot with high upside prospects.
Booch Posted 20 minutes ago Report Posted 20 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, wbbfan said: he has, kid is soaking it up down there. he’s doing all the right things and working full time with the right people. the nfl will pass him by if he doesn’t crack an ar this year or gets hurt, it’s all gonna end real fast. tbh i think he deserves a shot on the ar of an nfl this year. I don’t think the lions are willing to take the plunge which is silly. they say they do but he’s camped on the back end of the depth chart. Which happens a lot with high upside prospects. yeah he night and day from what he was when got there...but the clock is ticking on guy sadly...bonus for us in long run but this will be his PR yr and if he doesnt crack it next...I bet they release him, and he may play the PR dance a yr wbbfan 1
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