The Airline Thread

[FrostyWinnipeg 5,187]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg 5,187]

 

[JCon 11,680]

34 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

 

[JCon 11,680]

Boeing publicises new name for 737 Max planes after crashes

Statement unveiling new order from Polish airline calls it a 737-8 aircraft first, before noting it is a Max jet

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/20/boeing-737-max-plane-new-name-poland-enter-air

[blue_gold_84 6,094]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-refunds-1.5697727

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Air Canada had the second-highest number of complaints about refunds to the U.S. Department of Transportation of any airline in May.

The department says Air Canada was the target of 1,705 refund complaints out of 10,415 filed against non-U.S. airlines in the month, outpacing all 80-plus foreign carriers in the category.

United Airlines was the only airline — domestic or international — to notch more refund complaints at 3,215.

Air Canada and other Canadian carriers have refused to reimburse most customers whose flights were cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Air Canada is a disgrace.

[FrostyWinnipeg 5,187]

 

[JCon 11,680]

Canada takes first step to approve Boeing 737 Max to fly again

Aircraft grounded worldwide for nearly two years after pair of deadly crashes

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-boeing-737-max-1.5845096

[blue_gold_84 6,094]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/airlines-escalating-carbon-emissions-1.5899829

Pretty interesting read as it pertains to the future of the aviation industry.

For reference: https://www.atag.org/facts-figures.html

[kelownabomberfan 7,396]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9407441/Author-reveals-startling-new-theory-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-jet.html

[SpeedFlex27 8,109]

1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9407441/Author-reveals-startling-new-theory-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-jet.html

Good thing TUP is no longer here. 

[Tracker 8,380]

9 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9407441/Author-reveals-startling-new-theory-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-jet.html

And here I always thought it was the Cuban mafia operating out of a grassy knoll.

[FrostyWinnipeg 5,187]

15 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9407441/Author-reveals-startling-new-theory-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-jet.html

[SpeedFlex27 8,109]

The plane went down for unknown reasons into the ocean & was swallowed up by the depth of the water. Beginning, middle & end of story.

[Tracker 8,380]

10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The plane went down for unknown reasons into the ocean & was swallowed up by the depth of the water. Beginning, middle & end of story.

The flight pattern strongly suggested that it was being deliberately piloted to an area where survival and retrieval  would be very difficult if not impossible, and that points to pilot involvement for unknown reasons.

[SpeedFlex27 8,109]

19 hours ago, Tracker said:

The flight pattern strongly suggested that it was being deliberately piloted to an area where survival and retrieval  would be very difficult if not impossible, and that points to pilot involvement for unknown reasons.

The plane crashed. It is under hundreds to thousands of feet of water somewhere. Nothing points to nothing. Everyone is dead. They aren't being held prisoners on some forlorn & isolated South Pacific island. Aliens didn't take them off world. They're dead.

 

Edited March 31 by SpeedFlex27

[FrostyWinnipeg 5,187]

6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The plane crashed. It is under hundreds to thousands of feet of water somewhere. Nothing points to nothing. Everyone is dead. They aren't being held prisoners on some forlorn & isolated South Pacific island. Aliens didn't take them off world. They're dead.

[TrueBlue4ever 2,807]

The mystery is not what happened. The mystery is why. The story is much more than “plane went down, they are all dead, the end”. 

[SpeedFlex27 8,109]

1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

The mystery is not what happened. The mystery is why. The story is much more than “plane went down, they are all dead, the end”. 

Well, unfortunately we'll never know. Just like what happened to Amelia Earhart. When seen last time, she was on ST:Voyager in the Gamma Quadrant, a victim of alien abduction. 

[Tracker 8,380]

As a footnote, three pieces of debris that have been positively identified as coming from an aircraft consistent with the type that disappeared have washed up on the Seychelles.  Not conclusive evidence, but strongly suggestive that the plane went down in the southern Indian Ocean west of Australia. The plane's transponder was turned off just before it went off course. Had the crew been incapacitated, the plane would have continued on a straight course until it ran out of fuel or was shot down. The plane made four course changes before going completely dark, and when you factor all the evidence in, it was human intent and action that was responsible.

[JCon 11,680]

1 minute ago, Tracker said:

As a footnote, three pieces of debris that have been positively identified as coming from an aircraft consistent with the type that disappeared have washed up on the Seychelles.  Not conclusive evidence, but strongly suggestive that the plane went down in the southern Indian Ocean west of Australia. The plane's transponder was turned off just before it went off course. Had the crew been incapacitated, the plane would have continued on a straight course until it ran out of fuel or was shot down. The plane made four course changes before going completely dark, and when you factor all the evidence in, it was human intent and action that was responsible.

[SpeedFlex27 8,109]

Perhaps countries & airlines should invest in better ways to track aircraft in the South Pacific. In this day & age with all the scientific & technological advancements there must be a way to accurately track aircraft in that vast area using buoys or ships. Or tracking stations on deserted small islands.

I have an app on my phone that tracks commercial airlines. Five years ago, my son was flying back to Canada with his fiance from Auckland to Vancouver. There was an American airliner about half an hour ahead flying on the same path from Auckland to LA. It disappeared off of my app in the South Pacific for about half an hour then reappeared. Then both planes disappeared again only to reappear later. My son's plane did the same. If I hadn't known the other airline had done so first, I'd have been concerned it crashed. These gaps need to be eliminated. As I said, that should be up to countries & airlines around the world to fund a better system, if there is one. 

Edited March 31 by SpeedFlex27

[Tracker 8,380]

If a pilot does not want to be found, s/he can usually do that. Turn off the transponder and dip below the radar horizon and voila!

[SpeedFlex27 8,109]

Yeah, but most pilots do. But there was no way to track the planes in that part of the world as the ocean is so vast. Maybe satellite tracking, I dunno?

Edited March 31 by SpeedFlex27

[JCon 11,680]

Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

http://gph.is/2xWmElS

 

[FrostyWinnipeg 5,187]

3 hours ago, JCon said:

 

Edited March 31 by FrostyWinnipeg