The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I think Elliott said it was an intangible link. Ie being from here. Not a concrete link. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Only in Winnipeg are we so fixated on guys having to play their correct side. Almost every other team has at least one guy in their top six playing their off-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Atomic said: Only in Winnipeg are we so fixated on guys having to play their correct side. Almost every other team has at least one guy in their top six playing their off-side. I disagree. Ask players. Some guys flat out refuse to play off-side (or at least hate to do it). Hell, it was part of Trouba's issue here. Some guys dont mind and some guys grow up playing their off side. Shane Hnidy was talking about this and said some guys really have trouble with it. So the issue isnt "oh he's RHD" it's does he care? Cause if he's a Right Hand Shot that plays LHD, great. if he plays both sides, even better. But the idea that it doesnt matter is absolutely false. You think Buff wanted to play off side? If so, Trouba would have stayed RHD and Buff would have switched. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I disagree. Ask players. Some guys flat out refuse to play off-side (or at least hate to do it). Hell, it was part of Trouba's issue here. Some guys dont mind and some guys grow up playing their off side. Shane Hnidy was talking about this and said some guys really have trouble with it. So the issue isnt "oh he's RHD" it's does he care? Cause if he's a Right Hand Shot that plays LHD, great. if he plays both sides, even better. But the idea that it doesnt matter is absolutely false. You think Buff wanted to play off side? If so, Trouba would have stayed RHD and Buff would have switched. Never said it doesn't matter. I said they make it work everywhere else which isn't a matter of opinion, it's fact. Of course guys prefer to play their correct side, I'm saying it's not as big a deal as we make it out to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Atomic said: Never said it doesn't matter. I said they make it work everywhere else which isn't a matter of opinion, it's fact. Of course guys prefer to play their correct side, I'm saying it's not as big a deal as we make it out to be here. We have three bonafide RHD and a weak left side. I think its very important what side a guy is better at playing. When talking depth, sure its not as important because a bubble player will play where he's told. But even then if a guy can step in when called at his preferred side but sucks on his off side, thats an important factor to know. If Stone is a RHD that doesnt like to play his off side, then he doesnt do much for us unless the Jets see him as the 7th D man. I think we're mostly in agreement lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: We have three bonafide RHD and a weak left side. I think its very important what side a guy is better at playing. When talking depth, sure its not as important because a bubble player will play where he's told. But even then if a guy can step in when called at his preferred side but sucks on his off side, thats an important factor to know. If Stone is a RHD that doesnt like to play his off side, then he doesnt do much for us unless the Jets see him as the 7th D man. I think we're mostly in agreement lol Yeah probably. I just think you go out and find the six best defencemen and let them play. Overall talent level is more important than which side they play on. I honestly think if you threw Buff on the left side he would thrive there. A guy with a shot like his would absolutely crush it in the offensive zone on his off-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Atomic said: Yeah probably. I just think you go out and find the six best defencemen and let them play. Overall talent level is more important than which side they play on. I honestly think if you threw Buff on the left side he would thrive there. A guy with a shot like his would absolutely crush it in the offensive zone on his off-side. Agreed but if the best six D (on their preferred side) slip to be the top 12 D when playing off side, it changes things. It seemed to be a big deal for Trouba. I dont recall but it seems the Jets avoid off-side D man too. ie. Postma might have been a better D man than Chiarot but Chiarot got the final LHD spot when needed. I dont pay THAT much attention but I dont seem to recall that switching very often. Saying that, if they sign Stone, Im fine with that. Local boy is always nice and he's decent. Big, strong and still young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Some speculation that the Hawks might try to trade Hossa to a team needing to get beyond the cap floor. The problem with the Hawks is, they cant put Hossa on LTIR until Day 2 of the season. So sure, that would take his salary off the cap but by then everyone you want has already been signed. They need cap release NOW if they want to be active in free agency. Even though the NHL should force Hossa to retire and subject the Hawks to the cap recapture penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Even though the NHL should force Hossa to retire and subject the Hawks to the cap recapture penalties. Why? Are you saying you don't believe his has the condition that he has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, Rich said: Why? Are you saying you don't believe his has the condition that he has? Yes I believe it. I also believe that since he got the vast majority of his money, its no longer worth it for him to play through the issue at 38 years old. He's never playing again. He's retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Yes I believe it. I also believe that since he got the vast majority of his money, its no longer worth it for him to play through the issue at 38 years old. He's never playing again. He's retired. No different then Pronger the last two years and he got a job with the league while still getting paid for the last 3 years of his contract. Don't think the NHL has a problem with this sort of thing, and I don't think you can really punish the team for a player that has a valid condition that stops them from playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rich said: No different then Pronger the last two years and he got a job with the league while still getting paid for the last 3 years of his contract. Don't think the NHL has a problem with this sort of thing, and I don't think you can really punish the team for a player that has a valid condition that stops them from playing. I agree. Pronger retired as well but they called it something else. I didnt make this up, there was a lot of chatter that the NHL might not like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goalie Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) Mark Stuart on waivers for buyout purposes. But... Jets dont do that. Guess they do. Edited June 30, 2017 by Goalie The Unknown Poster and Atomic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Atomic said: Only in Winnipeg are we so fixated on guys having to play their correct side. Almost every other team has at least one guy in their top six playing their off-side. I hate it cause it looks like ship during a PP. Edited June 30, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Goalie said: Mark Stuart on waivers for buyout purposes. But... Jets dont do that. Guess they do. Very interesting. i wonder if he has something in the works with True North? I assumed they'd just send him to "mentor" the Moose. Maybe he didnt want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: I hate it cause it looks like ship during a PP. Say what now? Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Very interesting. i wonder if he has something in the works with True North? I assumed they'd just send him to "mentor" the Moose. Maybe he didnt want to. Maybe coaching role with the Moose. I mean... Hes pretty done as a player id say. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Atomic said: Say what now? Cathaholic spell correction on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Atomic, SPuDS, Noeller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 As if on cue: Atomic and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: As if on cue: What happens when u dont have offensive LHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 No Stu, no Postman. Only question left is whether Chiarot is #6 or 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: As if on cue: He must read this forum. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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