Tracker Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Trump has gone right over the edge: At a recent Wisconsin rally, Donald Trump plunged to new depths with regard to a woman’s right to choose. Regaling his loyal supporters with a gruesome, fictional account of what happens in a delivery room, Trump insisted that doctors and mothers often conspire to “execute” healthy newborns. Beyond shocking, Trump’s grisly lie represented his latest mental leap into a world of fantastic violence. Yet in covering the rally and the ghastly infanticide claim, the New York Times could only summon enough courage to call Trump’s hideous declaration “a standard, and inaccurate, refrain.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 He’s crazy. Imagine what happens when he loses in 2020 and decides not to recognize the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bustamente Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Let see is any Republican Senators have any back bone today, I think we all know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Even with the hysterical headline the Washington post article actually says Mueller agreed with Barr s assessment and his misgivings was with media reports not Barr. The chasm between Collusion Truthers/ partisan media's wish fulfillment and reality is breathtaking. Angry that Mueller couldn't take down Trump now they've moved on to Barr with even less evidence. Wideleft, The Unknown Poster and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 13 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I don't know if your American acquaintance is going to get the opportunity to vote for trump in 2020. and that's what scares me. The Democrats seem to have already conceded the election and are pinning all of their hopes on impeachment instead. I don't think that that is a strategy that is going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tracker said: Trump has gone right over the edge: At a recent Wisconsin rally, Donald Trump plunged to new depths with regard to a woman’s right to choose. Regaling his loyal supporters with a gruesome, fictional account of what happens in a delivery room, Trump insisted that doctors and mothers often conspire to “execute” healthy newborns. Beyond shocking, Trump’s grisly lie represented his latest mental leap into a world of fantastic violence. Yet in covering the rally and the ghastly infanticide claim, the New York Times could only summon enough courage to call Trump’s hideous declaration “a standard, and inaccurate, refrain.” yes this was just awful. However, late-term abortions are a hot-button issue in the US (could be as big as immigration was in 2016), and the Dems have to decide if they want it to be a hill they want to die on. When you have someone like Trump spouting this kind of nonsense, and who doesn't play by any rules, what do you do? How do you combat it? The Republican talking point "Democrats want to kill babies" - Democrats "well, not quite babies". It's a tough one. Edited May 1, 2019 by kelownabomberfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Except extreme late term and post birth abortions do happen as the Gosnell case showed, which media willfully hid from, there are Democrat policy makers, who promised to legalize infanticide if doctor and mother agreed. So who exactly is living in a "fantastic " dream world of violence? Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Cool article from Benjamin Wittes and his take on the Mueller report: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/ben-wittes-five-conclusions-mueller-report/588259/ it's a good deep dive into the Mueller report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Zontar said: Except extreme late term and post birth abortions do happen as the Gosnell case showed, which media willfully hid from, there are Democrat policy makers, who promised to legalize infanticide if doctor and mother agreed. So who exactly is living in a "fantastic " dream world of violence? But he was found guilty for murder and imprisoned. How did the media hide from that? it was covered pretty well in print. There was no tv cameras allowed in the philly courts. The media didn't cover it up- you don't think the conservative radio scene and pundits tried really hard to push the anti-abortion narrative on this one? it didn't gain much traction because there was no tv coverage. it's pretty much that simple. in the end though... Gosnell was tried, found guilty and sentenced. for murder- thank goodness. How this ends up being like what trump made abortions out to be... no clue- that dude is pure cuckoo-bananas. Edited May 1, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy Wideleft and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Thing is he'll appoint some other liar to replace this person. One thing is clear out of all of this. If you aren't willing and able to lie every day, about anything, trivial, or vitally important, you are not qualified to work for Trump, and will not work for him for long. That's actually the only thing he wants in an employee. skill, experience, knowledge, non of those things matter. Edited May 1, 2019 by Mark F Wideleft and Fatty Liver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: But he was found guilty for murder and imprisoned. How did the media hide from that? it was covered pretty well in print. There was no tv cameras allowed in the philly courts. The media didn't cover it up- you don't think the conservative radio scene and pundits tried really hard to push the anti-abortion narrative on this one? it didn't gain much traction because there was no tv coverage. it's pretty much that simple. in the end though... Gosnell was tried, found guilty and sentenced. for murder- thank goodness. How this ends up being like what trump made abortions out to be... no clue- that dude is pure cuckoo-bananas. National media did not cover it. They reported the verdict and thats it. The media gallery throughout the trial,was ,largely empty. Home town Washington Post rationalized the avoidance of coverage of 50 people murdered as just a "local crime story". Facebook banned advertising for the movie, much of media refused to review it, could go on and on but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Zontar said: National media did not cover it. They reported the verdict and thats it. The media gallery throughout the trial,was ,largely empty. Home town Washington Post rationalized the avoidance of coverage of 50 people murdered as just a "local crime story". Facebook banned advertising for the movie, much of media refused to review it, could go on and on but you get the idea. what movie was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: what movie was that? Movie based on the Gosnell crimes and trial. Leftists and media sympathizers wanted the case out of the public consciousness as fast as humanly possible. And if they weren't shamed into acknowlodging what actually happened by non MSN and social media they would have skipped the entire case completely. Edited May 1, 2019 by Zontar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Zontar said: Movie based on the Gosnell crimes and trial. Leftists and media sympathizers wanted the case out of the public consciousness as fast as humanly possible. And if they weren't shamed into acknowlodging what actually happened by non MSN and social media they would have skipped the entire case completely. That is very interesting- could you elaborate a little more please, I know very little about the suppression tactic used here. what I find fascinating in the MSM cover up claim, is that no one on the conservative-rightwing media picked it up... if both sides fail to pick up a VERY ideologically charged trail case.... that shows lack of interest and not cover up. I seriously think that the fact cameras were banned in court played a much larger role than a "leftist cover-up". Edited May 1, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: That is very interesting- could you elaborate a little more please, I know very little about the suppression tactic used here. Simple. They refused to cover the trial. Ignored and or ridiculed the movie. Near limitless , no questions asked abortion has replaced legal but rare as a new sacred cow for the left. So any real life events that shame this needs to be strategized against, in tthe Gosnell case, give as little attention to it as possible. And they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zontar said: Simple. They refused to cover the trial. Ignored and or ridiculed the movie. Near limitless , no questions asked abortion has replaced legal but rare as a new sacred cow for the left. So any real life events that shame this needs to be strategized against, in tthe Gosnell case, give as little attention to it as possible. And they did. WHat about the right-wing conservative media? they were just as complicit... are "Near limitless , no questions asked abortion has replaced legal but rare as a new sacred cow" for the conservatives now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: WHat about the right-wing conservative media? they were just as complicit... are "Near limitless , no questions asked abortion has replaced legal but rare as a new sacred cow" for the conservatives now? If there are then they are moral cowards and still a minority among their fellow idealogues nd even more a minority in the public in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Zontar said: Even with the hysterical headline the Washington post article actually says Mueller agreed with Barr s assessment and his misgivings was with media reports not Barr. The chasm between Collusion Truthers/ partisan media's wish fulfillment and reality is breathtaking. Angry that Mueller couldn't take down Trump now they've moved on to Barr with even less evidence. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 wow Barr is doing bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, The Unknown Poster said: wow Barr is doing bad. Dude is a worse trump hack then I had originally thought... and trust me- I set that bar pretty ******* low.... and I am even surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Dude is a worse trump hack then I had originally thought... and trust me- I set that bar pretty ******* low.... and I am even surprised. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 This clown shoe says he can’t remember if he gave info on ongoing investigations to the White House. The attorney general! He also lied about the definition of obstruction. To get away with obvious lying you need to be charming and/or charismatic. That’s why so many politicians are good at it. Barr is no politician. And it makes them all (trump included) look like a band of crooks. Plus trump is so transparent. When he’s scared he goes on tweet storms. What was it today, 60+?? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 It won’t be popular with a lot of Americans but this sentiment will be strong With many of them. Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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