Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

But it’s a hoax and just a flu. And go to work. And it’s nothing.  
 

and thankfully the virus respects the special relationship between the US and UK.... 

Edited March 12, 20205 yr by The Unknown Poster

3 hours ago, Zontar said:

As far as governmental red tape and beurocratic mismangement surely youre not suggesting this was invented in 2016 ? Surely youre not ignoring state and city governments, many of which arent republican,  have a role to play?

Surely youre not ignoring how globalism, which both parties worship, has robbed countries of the ability to be more self sufficient in extraordinary times like this.

Exploiting a crisis like this to score points is despicable but not surprising.

if globalism caused or complicated pandemics, why haven't they gotten more frequent or more intense in the years since the 90s when Clinton liberalized American trade with China and really kicked off the modern economic age of outsourcing and the freedom of capital?

red tape is one thing.  The Trump decision to defund pandemic response in 2017 was a different thing, an act of foolish mismanagement akin to Bush's not bothering to read "Bin Laden determined to strike in USA."

and yeah, I know that state and local governments have a role to play. but the federal government has/had more resources and better labs.  Also state and local governments have no control over airports and airport security, and a large component of an effective pandemic response is to identify high-risk passengers and taking the appropriate precautions with them.  so while Seattle is busy outlawing gatherings of 250+ people, setting up quarantine shelters, and working on a business rescue strategy for all the small businesses that can be killed by a bad month, we are also freely exporting our coronavirus load to the rest of the USA and to the world because the people who could help with that don't have a clue, or don't give a ****.

people say "oh let's not politicize this" are people who are against accountability.  We grant the president near immunity from criminal prosecution and give him a free flop on top of that, why is it so distasteful when we hold him to the low standard of merely doing his job?  What's wrong with accountability?  I know where the buck stopped in 1948, where does it stop now?

TLDR: another typically empty post that reeks of bothsidesism and punches the globalist strawman for good measure.

(edit: I guess we're not exporting our coronavirus load to the world anymore.  just to africa, asia, australia, and the UK.)

Edited March 12, 20205 yr by johnzo

NBA suspends the season, Tom Hanks and wife have tested positive

Looks like a statement is coming from the NHL latter tonight, Flights to and from Europe suspended

Edited March 12, 20205 yr by bustamente

This hoax isn’t funny. Can someone ask the Democrats to knock it off please.  

7 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Its not the platform and ideas that are being rejected- it's the question of electability. 

polll after poll after poll shows that US citizens want the stuff Bernie is putting out there. 

People who have polled on Obamacare are well acquainted with this dynamic.

When you describe a lot of the stuff that Obamacare does, people like those things -- preexisting condition coverage, college students stay on their parents' insurance, requiring a basic level of care from an insurance plan, contraception coverage -- this stuff is enjoys a high approval rating.

But when you say "are in you favor of Obamacare?" the affirmatives plummet.

A lot of that is due to the grotesque romneycare public+private/tax penalty for not buying insurance thing.  Fair enough.  But still that ridiculous individual mandate is gone now, and  many people don't realize that Obamacare survives and has a lot of good and necessary stuff in it .... because it was endlessly marketed to them on its weakest points and also it was named after a scary foreign islamic devil who broke the law by even trying to become president.

just gotta figure out how to market social democracy for the American public. Neither "competent middle-aged librarian type who collects plutocrat scalps" or  "angry flailing Brooklyn oldster who stokes the hardcore kids" got it done, we'll see what's next.

Edited March 12, 20205 yr by johnzo

9 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

This hoax isn’t funny. Can someone ask the Democrats to knock it off please.  

I can't believe the Woke Basketball Association canceled its season just to own Trump.  Sad!

Trumps glorious economy is a thing of the past, he skirted by without of big event, now the idiot is truly f'd

Do we need a world health thread?

 

7 hours ago, pigseye said:

Finally, something closer to the truth. People hate Trump because he is an awful person, not because of his policies, which the Democrats continue to slide through the house. Only the far left eco-terrorists despise his energy policies and the environment. 

What a load of crap.

7 hours ago, Wideleft said:

You have admitted to being a troll. 

The question is why do you do it?  

Better question... why do we fall for It?

So no surprise. Trump screws up his address and misrepresents the European travel ban.  What a small small man.  

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

So no surprise. Trump screws up his address and misrepresents the European travel ban.  What a small small man.  

He still seems to act like it is a financial problem, not a health crisis

26 minutes ago, do or die said:

He still seems to act like it is a financial problem, not a health crisis

He knows the only thing he can hang his hat on is the great economy he inherited from Obama.  Bad economy guarantees his defeat.  So all he cares about are his own selfish desires.  He’s a loser. Capital L.  
 

His racist buddy Miller wrote the speech so it was fake tough and designed to make people think they’re doing more and it’s a foreign problem.  Gross.  
 

Let’s hope mitigation efforts work and it fizzles our. But man, trump needs to wear this. What a piece of work. 

When will the orange goblin ask about suspending the election....

"He's not doing enough, he's doing too much. Hes overreacting. He's not serious. Hey, hear what Buzzfeed thinks"

Won't be a fun and satisfying game for long.

10 minutes ago, Zontar said:

"He's not doing enough, he's doing too much. Hes overreacting. He's not serious. Hey, hear what Buzzfeed thinks"

Won't be a fun and satisfying game for long.

There is nothing he could do to disappoint you is there?   

21 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

There is nothing he could do to disappoint you is there?   

Plenty of disappointments. Said so many times. 

Stop exploiting a pandemic to score imaginary points for the game in your mind.

It's unhealthy. 

21 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Plenty of disappointments. Said so many times. 

Stop exploiting a pandemic to score imaginary points for the game in your mind.

It's unhealthy. 

So... he can't  be criticized for his poor handling of this pandemic and the fact his focus is on the economy and not people- because that would be exploiting the pandemic? 

29 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Plenty of disappointments. Said so many times. 

Stop exploiting a pandemic to score imaginary points for the game in your mind.

It's unhealthy. 

hahaTalk about unhealthy.

The idiot-in-chief gave that speech like he was seeing the words for the first time as he read them.  He looked like he had just added a fresh coat of orange primer.  He looked and sounded awful.  He lied to the American people.  He was Xenophobic (no surprise there) and purposely confusing.  

If someone were demonstrating examples of Presidential leadership in times of crises, they'd show that speech to show you what *not* to do.  Empty suit.  He's been exposed now.  

This is what a president looks like when all they know how to do is stick to a lie and hope people believe you. He is damned lucky there are as many rubes in the world as their are.

20 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So... he can't  be criticized for his poor handling of this pandemic and the fact his focus is on the economy and not people- because that would be exploiting the pandemic? 

Don't forgot how he chose to blame Europe for this pandemic.

 

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

This is what a president looks like when all they know how to do is stick to a lie and hope people believe you. He is damned lucky there are as many rubes in the world as their are.

Dont you love that this really important speech was written by Miller with input from Jared?  Are there no real speech writers or communication advisors in the White House anymore?  Trump is isolating himself to the people with an agenda.

32 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

hahaTalk about unhealthy.

The idiot-in-chief gave that speech like he was seeing the words for the first time as he read them.  He looked like he had just added a fresh coat of orange primer.  He looked and sounded awful.  He lied to the American people.  He was Xenophobic (no surprise there) and purposely confusing.  

If someone were demonstrating examples of Presidential leadership in times of crises, they'd show that speech to show you what *not* to do.  Empty suit.  He's been exposed now.  

Well at least he has figured out his goggle eyes, as for the travel ban can you figure out why his travel ban does not include the UK and Ireland especially since the UK health minister has Coronavirus?, here's a hint......................................four

7 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Well at least he has figured out his goggle eyes, as for the travel ban can you figure out why his travel ban does not include the UK and Ireland especially since the UK health minister has Coronavirus?, here's a hint......................................four

yup.  The speech was nonsense, designed to look tough even though he looked like a scared child giving a book report he didnt actually do.  

It shows that the admin still thinks its a hoax and just wants to appear to be doing something.  My favourite part was when he asked for non-partisan support.  Sure, right after he apologizes for calling it a democratic hoax.