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Tough to tell on TV but Stoudemire gets no help. It's him vs 3 or 4 the second the ball arrives. Veltung wouldn't do much better. As for Daniels maybe Lewis from the PR

Yup Picard is definitely a problem. His snaps are awful and have been all year. Play Goossen and cut Picard really.

Anyone noticed the line judge tonight? The former head ref who was demoted.

I dunno how you blame coaches for fumbles or missed tackles really. I think we lack talent on the field more than coaching. MB is a problem but really players play

Lots of chincy calls tonight too. Leggett on the kicker... didn't touch him. Hold on Bryant late in the game. Couple missed face masks. Couple missed high hits on Marve too. Couple weeks ago they called PI on a run play against us. This week they pick the flag up cuz it was determined to be a run play. Not blaming refs. Just thought there were some weak calls and non calls. Both ways for both teams

Thought it was the other way to be honest. The other player bumped Lirim

I'll just say this and be gone for the night... I think we will win a few games with Marve as the QB.

Guess clock runs when you snap the ball right? Or when ref whistles play in? Like 30 seconds left. Probably run off 5 8 seconds there with a sneak. I don't like the shotgun call but maybe they were gonna look for the pass but got pressured to quick. Marve might have made the wrong read there but still dumb formation

Marve should have thrown it away or gone down instead of going backwards 18 yards too

Yup. Really noticed Hurl Bass and Westerman. Honorable mention to Jake a Thomas. Teams seem to avoid Johnny Adams but pick on Bucknor. Turner Play? Cuz Mia once again. Hate saying this but are the imports mack brought in any good still?

But really if your hoping for Lirim to make the tackle... it's pretty much game over

Special Teams is not good. No blocking help for Stoudemire at all. 1 vs 3 or 4 most times. Cost us a TD today too. Still think the Kohlert fumble was the nail in the coffin tho

Still alive thanks to Marshall

Don't like giving teams points. And really the Kohlert fumble was more costly

Not sure MB called many long passes. Tough to see on TV but... looked like short routes

MB should be gone after that 3rd and 1 shotgun call.

Kohlert fumble was a pretty huge mistake too.

Possible read option with Marshall and Marve but yeah dumb.

The OC called that play. Or Marve read it wrong. Read option it seemed. If he gives it to Marshall he probably gets 1st down but he pulled it. Bs hold on Bryant didn't help. Positive tho.. Marve played well enough

Well. I don't really think it's our business to know. I could care less the type of injury. But scratching Collins is Def an odd move. Unless he is banged up too. Do you take a day off work cuz you're sick but really had the runs let's say. Do you come in next day and go man I couldn't stop shitting or u just say u were sick?

Just one last thing before i go shower and that stuff... Don't mind Gordon over Veltung, it's all good... But scratching Nate Collins makes me definitely wonder what the hell the coaches are thinking. Don't get me wrong, I'm a turner fan but.... I thought the Dline was much improved the last couple of games. Blind Loyalty really to average players, it might not cost MOS his job as i'm not sure if this is his or Halls decision but... man, it makes you wonder what they are thinking.

Watched it a couple days ago... Not a huge fan of the music but... do appreciate the effort it took to put this together so good job there Heel Atomic. It's a nice video really... Shows that he made some nice throws, can scramble, has a good arm.. comfortable when scrambling really.. that one pass to was it Denmark on the sidelines where he's directing him where to go... Kids got some skills and shows lots of fire... I guess you can say... Marve seems to have some intangibles about him.

Meh, It's practice... Let's see what happens when the bullets fly for real... Honestly, i'm not overly concerned about the lack of practice reps. If anything, it's a built in excuse if he struggles.

Like with all good to great returners, you get the good and you get the bad, there really is no middle ground, even brandon banks, guy is explosive yup but at times he messes up pretty huge too, turns balls over, runs sideways to gain 2 yards.. They all do it really.. You take the good and the bad with the returners cuz eventually they do break one for a huge gain, couple weeks back vs BC, first play of the second half, big big return for stouds, TD to adams next play. Chad Owens is the same way... mr fumbles really, but he breaks one every now and then and all is forgotten.

What i remember from Lefevour is what i remember from lots of young qbs that come in to the league, not a good passer but he could run... unfortunately tho that running every other snap caught up to him.