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  4. Wrestling

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    7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

    The gag order is officially over so I can talk about it finally.

    Im really happy this Doc happened and I have to say, it was among the highlights of my time in wrestling (if not THE highlight).  Because it made everything worth it.  And I was treated with a lot of respect and to be made to feel like a big part of it.  And in fact, I was.

    I received a cold call from one of the producers last spring/summer and they were basically starting from scratch and had only my name and Don Callis' name and didnt know who else to talk to or how to get in touch with them.  So I feel pretty good about the fact that I pretty much controlled their Winnipeg-aspect of the project.

    It was a  lot of fun.  Spent a lot of time with the producers/directors etc.  Did a lengthy interview myself.  It was super professional.  And of course, gave them a lot of PCW footage to use.  Additionally, they were on hand for our last Omega event in October with multiple cameras/lights etc set up.  That was the event Don Callis did the angle with Kenny that got the social media buzz.

     

     

    I hope you gave them just enough of the Kenny/AJ match to start a proper bidding war for the whole tape 😎

    On an unrelated note, are there physical tickets available for Top Cock or are you just doing it all online?

  5. Wrestling

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    2 hours ago, Goalie said:

    Why is it laughable. Jericho is not a huge draw.. You can say Sting in TNA then.. Didn't draw much. 

    I like Chris but hes a PT 50 yr old. His NJPW run didnt really move the needle for New Japan. 

    I just dont think at 50 hes a draw..  

    Besides if he is its 2 fans who likely are already in to New Japan. The indy fans.. I dont think theres as many indy fans as ppl think

    It's even less like Sting in TNA. Sting went there after working old timers tours for two years. Jericho's coming in on the heels of some red hot programs in Japan. You say he didn't move the needle but I think most people would agree that he was the primary draw for last years Wrestle Kingdom which had one of the highest attendance figures in recent years as well as a huge increase in online subscriptions from North America. Not to mention his merch sales are through the roof. He's the one guy his age who has managed to keep himself relevant.

    Besides, the rest of the roster is already shaping up to be pretty damn good. They already have a good mix of styles and I'm sure there's a couple more big names to come. You keep on referring to indie fans and indie wrestlers but NJPW and even ROH & Impact are pretty far from the indies and that's where most of these guys will be coming in from. It's not like they're signing guys that would be wrestling in the Boogies parking lot otherwise. In recent years I've watched both Wrestlemanias and Wrestle Kingdoms with people who aren't/weren't wrestling fans. Guess which of the two turned people into fans? If AEW offers a proper alternative to the WWE and it's easy to access for viewers I really think they have a legit shot at being successful.

  6. Wrestling

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    1 hour ago, Goalie said:

    Jericho is 50. Remember Angle in TNA? Barely moved the needle. If It was 15 years ago maybe... 

    Hope AEW works out.. But i already see huge issues for them and the main one being im not sure if the niche market is big enough even with TV deal. 

    The biggest problem tho is the fickle fans they are catering 2 who hate wwe but will pop for ex wwe guys. 

    Lets be honest..50 yr old pT jericho isnt a draw and neither is Neville and despite what some think... Omega is not well known in the states at all. 

    What makes him better than AJ Styles? Im just saying.. Catering to the roh fanbase isnt gonna get the job done. 

    Right now.. Its a bunch of talk but how are u gonna convince casual fans to tune in when they see stardust neville 50 yr old Jericho and a bunch of lets be honest... Midgets. 

     

    I dont see the diff between AEW or roh or impact or mlw for that matter. 

    That is THE competition for them.. Its not WWE.. Its the indy feds i mentioned.. Mlw impact even roh and to a lesser extent NJPW which are all established brands who dont draw **** in reality in the states 

    60000 watching eh? Cool.. Thats grear but to compete with the E you gonna need 2 million more tuning in.. 

     

    Where are those 2 million cuz they aint watching roh mlw impact or Japan

     

    Honestly the roster is quite underwhelming at the moment... 

    Its truly ROH but with some hype. 

    ROH isnt a huge draw. 

    Not sure the money or fans are there for this to be more than just a glorified indy fed owned by billionaires. 

    All in was special cuz it was funded by the boys... They are no longer All in.. Its not double or nothing.. Its playing with someone elses money. 

     

    Huge diverse crowd tho of maybe 3500 ppl.... There were a few fat white guys a few skinny white guys and like 6 women.. 

     

    Dude, Jericho has been one of the best things in wrestling the past couple of years. AEW is damn lucky to have him. Comparing him to Kurt Angle in TNA is so laughable that I'm not even going to bother with the rest of that drivel.

  10. Wrestling

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    14 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    Ill make a longer post about AEW soon but for now.. If they want to compete with WWE.. They can't cater to marks... 

    Ask casual fans why they should now care about stardust and 2 guys who do 50 superkicks a match. 

    Goldberg? Why 

    Why should anyone care about any wrestling? It's all in the way it's marketed. If they can get some buzz about being the hot new thing and then actually be on a channel that people can find they should get some eyeballs. If it's a good product they'll get the ever so important word of mouth advertising that REALLY gets viewers. You seem to have your mind made up already without a single event taking place.

  11. Wrestling

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    They need to be on a channel that most people already have, not something like Pursuit or whatever Impact laded on. Won't be surprised to see these guys do a lot of web content too. There's more and more opportunities to monetize that sort of thing every week it seems.

    If there's two real big winners in this whole thing, it's Kenny Omega and to a lesser extent Chris Jericho. They've both positioned themselves well to have a bidding war for their services. Wherever they end up, they are going to get paid BIG bucks.

  13. Wrestling

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    2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    Did you see the video of the wrestler who jumped off the top turnbuckle, did a moonsault, missed the table & landed head first with his head bouncing off the floor? MY ******* God that was one of the sickest things I have ever seen. His head hit the concrete like a coconut falling out of the tree. I'd like to know if he is going to be okay. he suffered a fractured skull & a brain bleed.

     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6517263/Wrestlers-rope-dive-goes-awry-sending-crashing-head-concrete-floor.html

     

    There's been a bunch of guys like Lance Storm on twitter commenting on how someone's going to die at some point and these sorts of stunts really need to be scaled back. The doofus who cracked his skull has been responding to each one with either a sarcastic "Thanks for your concern" or just flat out telling them they don't know what they're talking about. Was unfamiliar with the fellow until this incident so I have no clue if this is part of his brain damage or if he was always this way. Considering he was willing to try a stunt like that at an indie show where he's maybe getting paid a couple hundred bucks, I'm going to assume he was kind of an idiot to begin with.

  15. Wrestling

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    The WWE needs to do something drastic. As has been discussed to death, the lack of competition really hurts them. There's little to push them. I was talking to some friends on the weekend and we kicked around an idea that they would never go for but we all think would make for a more entertaining wrestling scene. At least on the major stage, the indies are **** hot right now. Anyway, we talked about what if the WWE was more like the NWA and was the governing body over a series of regional promotions. They would be the ultimate owner but could franchise out the different territories. There would be certain standards to uphold but each promotion would have control over how it presents its product on tv (live, taped, ECW style highlight show, etc), the look of the arena, the camera angles. Basically everything. They could even revive some of the historic brands they own. WCW would be the south, AWA the midwest, and so forth. A certain percentage of the roster would be people they franchisees bring in themselves but a majority would be WWE contracted wrestlers who are divided up amongst the regions. Then you would have your top stars who bounce between regions, not unlike the NWA champions would do.

    Again, never ever ever going happen but fun to discuss dream scenarios.

  16. Wrestling

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    Fun show tonight at the Sherb with Ethan Page and PCO. It's a new group, Winnipeg Pro Wrestling, that a couple of my buddies are involved in. Interested to see how they navigate a fairly crowded market but they seem to be targeting a certain niche. There's a ton of wrestling fans in the underground music scene here (which is fairly large) and these guys seem to be kinda marketing towards that group. In the end it could be beneficial to the other promotions, I suppose. There's a small handful of us that check out PCW and CWE shows, hopefully tonights card creates a few more wrestling regulars from our group of rock'n'roll regulars. I'd love it if this kinda started a local Rock'n'Wrestling era 😛

  17. Wrestling

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    The Bootyman has responded to CWE's claims

    https://www.facebook.com/BrotherBruti/photos/a.1455527161126424/2206982692647530

    Of interest in the comments is a screen grab of a text message sent to Danny Duggan (promoter of CWE for those who are unaware) by Ron "Faarooq" Simmons. The text reads
     

    "Don't worry Danny I will address that here and let everyone know that I did that exact tour and I was treated fairly and with respect. And in the mean time Feel free to quote me saying I did that exact tour and we made the best of the conditions we had. And that I had a great time working with everyone."

     

    That bolded part is the difference between a professional and a prima donna. It's the indies, you're not going to be getting the greatest of accommodations and you need to recognize that going in. Plus, some of these towns they hit have nothing other than an old run down motel. I suppose sleeping in the ring truck is an option...

  18. Wrestling

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    7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

    - In a story with some local spin, Brutus Beefcake left a 30+ day tour early and went home with the promotion, CWE, telling people Beefcake got paid up front for his remaining dates and left without telling anyone.  Beefcake claims he was actually owed money and left due to a family emergency.  I heard a version of the truth which paints Beefcake as less of a villain but he still left in the middle of the night without telling anyone...(he also did nothing in his Winnipeg appearance and was a bit of a **** when my friend asked for an autograph).

    Been following along with this on the Twitter. I'm not surprised that people occasionally bail on those tours. 30+ shows with few (if any) nights off is a hell of a grind and I'm guessing some of these legends they bring in don't quite remember how uncomfortable it is to drive 8 hours every single day for a month straight. That being said, they made the commitment. Unless something incredibly serious comes up, fulfill that commitment and if something does come up, leave on a good note with a promise to make it up to them in the near future.

  21. Wrestling

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    On 2018-11-13 at 11:00 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

    This was a rough one for me too 

     

     

    That one and Piper were the two that hit hard for me. Two guys I really wanted to have a chance to talk to for a couple of minutes.

     

    On a happier note, anyone checking out Sherb Your Enthusiasm? Sounds like it will be a fun show. PCO is a hell of a story, looking forward to seeing him in a few weeks.

  22. 3 stars +hh regular season finale

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    34 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

    2) Streveler - exciting to watch but is going to need a lot more work before he's a starter

    I agree. Thankfully, it seems like they're actually taking the proper approach to developing a QB this time around. It helps that we have the luxury of a legit starter ahead of him to a) learn from and b) keep him from being forced in too early.

  23. Wrestling

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    3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

    On the earnings call, Vince said he knew what was wrong with house shows and how to fix it.   I think declining house show numbers are a direct result of poor creative in general.  When the product is hot, people go to the live shows.  When its not, they dont.

    You're probably right as they are considering a revival of Saturday Night's Main Event as a Network show which would be an enhanced weekly house show.

    That's definitely the biggest part of it. I suppose when I was younger, I didn't care that nothing would happen at the house shows I went to. It was still an opportunity to see Stone Cold, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guererro, Kurt Angle, The Undertaker, Edge & Christian, etc.

  24. Wrestling

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    On 2018-10-25 at 10:20 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

    WWE released third quarter results today (on pace for record revenue) and had this to say:

    Word is, they are hoping the State Department tells them not to go so they can back out with an excuse.  Earlier today an extra show in Manchester suddenly appeared on some event page sites and then disappeared.

    Also, they also LOST money on house shows this quarter.  Thats a stat that the old Vince would have been going nuts over as he always considered live events to be a key metric to determine how they're connecting with the audience.  Might be time to cut back live events.

    Considering they have cameras at all of the live events now and all of the airtime available on the network, they should start booking some storyline advancements on house shows and do a weekly recap on the network. Cut back the number of house shows and at least have the potential for the event to mean something.

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