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That's your opinion. Committing a felony trespass, then cozying up next to a sleeping woman and child, then uttering threats at her and her room mate on the way out....yea,,,,that doesn't scream weirdo at all. Ms. South Carolina would probably fill you in on a thing or two about him as well.

Splitting hairs. He was also sued for assault that same night against a camera man, and was in an "altercation" with a woman afterwards. He just innocently walked over to the wrong house, went in, got cozy on the couch next to the female resident with no ill intentions. Not buying it. He traumatized this poor woman. He was charged with 1st degree criminal trespass which is a felony offence. This was later plea bargained down to a 2nd degree which made it a misdemeanor but that is likely the function of having an NFL player calibre lawyer.

I have not decided guilt but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, This isn't new or out of the ordinary behavior for him. Sorry, but if this was some out of the blue accusation against a guy with no priors I might be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, but this isn't some new concept. Past offences are always used in court to establish a person's past proclivity for committing the offence.

He was charged and convicted of breaking into a woman's home, sitting on the couch next to her while she slept with her 2 year old son, before being chased out by the woman's room mate when she awoke to find him there. God knows what his intentions were. This was while he was a player with the Broncos.

People do not need to stop throwing around the term sexual predator, he has been charged and convicted in the past for it. Maybe, it doesn't apply in this case exactly but when you add up his history with the current situation the term is maybe a bit harsh but certainly not by much.

"He's got a reputation" is about the nicest way you can sum up Kelly's past transgressions. Here is a reminder of the who exactly Chad Kelly has PROVEN himself to be. It shouldn't be minimized. He has two past serious transgressions against women, one that resulted in criminal charges. You want us all to give him the benefit of the doubt? Why should we? This isn't the same as some guy with a squeaky clean record being accused, there is a crap load of very serious precedents here. Could the allegations be false? Certainly they could, but in the case of Kelly he has set the bar of perception for himself and he needs to wear it. I have no sympathy for the guy whatsoever. Toronto knew full well who he is when they signed him too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM2yuF56dzk

Nice...minimizing sexual harrassement. You must be a fun guy at the office parties. In what world is hitting on a co-worker to the point of harrassment, then starting rumors about her to her co-workers, then threatening her with harm, acceptable to you? This is not acceptable behavior in any professional setting....EVER.

Not the same comparison at all. Night and day difference in the offence for most people. Harris, whether roiding or not, did not hurt anyone but his own reputation and body if he was guilty. This is violence against women. Like I said, night and day. When Harris got caught, I was mostly who cares about it. That's because I personally believe that there is a good % of athletes who are doping and at the end of the day I don't really personally care if they are or not. Violence against women is a much different type of offence.

Maybe. Should be a pretty easy investigation then. However, not many professionals burn their bridges in a close knit industry for attention or just to randomly character assassinate someone. Is it possible? Sure it is. The probability of that is very, very low though.

I disagree on Lofton, with the caveat that I hope someone else is better. Last year, Lofton was actually middle of the pack in the CFL for OTs by PFF. So not stellar, but certainly not a terrible option either. If someone else beats him out in TC, we will be in pretty good shape at RT.

No, it is not obvious at all. The amount she is asking for is not worth it at all. This isn't some kind of frivolous attempt to get rich.

Don't compare this to an acrimonious divorce. You are trying to minimize the situation by reframing it and it shows. This isn't the case of a lover scorned and you putting it into that kind of comparison can only serves to minimize the victim's credibility while garnering sympathy for the accused. This is a workplace sexual harrassment investigation, let's get that straight. I get it that you really want Kelly and the Argos to be blameless here, a victim of a hatchet job by a crazed ex-employee hell bent on revenge. The investigation will tell us whether there is an inkling of truth to that. Right now all logic points to the victim being credible. She really has nothing to gain in comparison to what she has and will lose.

Him even asking the girl out is at best highly inappropriate. If any of what she says is true as to what took place afterwards than Kelly is most definitely a harrasser. We likely wouldn't be too pleased with Dalton for being such a bonehead.

Yea...Leo was a really good player. I remember him being traded. Tough day for me, I was a big fan.

Yea...unfortunately his baggage comes into play whether it is relevant or not to this particular situation. Maybe it is a hit piece from a disgruntled ex-employee, but it very well might be that this employee was earnestly wronged. You seem to be dismissing that possibility. Kelly has a long history of troubled behavior, and this unfortunately lends some credence to the need for an investigation of these allegations. If it found to be much ado about nothing, then I am sure the CFL will move on and the Argos will still have their star QB. Restoring his reputation? You may not realize this because you are a died in the wool Argos fan, but most of the fans around the league regarded Kelly as a wingnut even prior to this.

I'm thinking like 81 or 82. I was about 11 or 12 so it's a bit murky exactly what year. It was at a BBQ at his house. My brother took us there as he was our babysitter and he was invited by Leo's sister. There were other Bomber players there but I wasn't a fanatic until I was about 15 or 16 so I don't really recall who exactly.

I agree. Just hope that's not the case.

I guess where this is much ado about something after all. As much as I like giving Bluto the gears, I hope this doesn't result in Kelly having his contract/CFL career terminated. We need all our star QBs.

That franchise just can't get out of it's own damn way....and I LOVE that about them.

Plus it's Wendy's and not very good.

I want Reacher as well. Just love that TV show, so with a nickname like that how can he not make the team.

It's almost comical at this point. Just no accountability or professionalism from top to bottom in that organization. Hate to say it but Craig Reynolds has really been a god awful president over there....ok...I don't hate to say it.

Today's different tweets concerning women just go to demonstrate the stark differences between our organization and the gappers in terms of professionalism and proper management. Just night and day. Awesome to see Paddy and Schoen coming out to hang out with a strong contingent of passionate female fans of the team. The RIders....well not so much....and I have to wonder who the hell are they to make fun of anyone's math skills anyway? 13

My oldest is my Ezerins jersey. Given to me by Leo himself when my brother was dating his sister.

I know you didn't ask, but we don't get many out to lunch TC reports anymore, Used to be that a couple posters in the past would bang the drum hard for some guy, get our hopes up, and then that dude would be released a couple days later. Nowadays, there's no real hyping up of guys in camp enough to know who to be disappointed about. lol