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Even in our native traditional teachings we share those same teachings with christianity....as it was meant to be. Not once humans subjected it to their interpretation for gain and greed.

Thank you for taking this journey. Education is the key. Most racism is born out of ignorance and I am proud of my brothers for opening that door for you too.

Well I'll take them along with any stray Bud Lights that are offending them too. Screw them....they are just making football and beer cheaper for the rest of us and somehow trying to claim victory.

I don't. But I will defend myself. I asked respectfully to bow out for my own mental health and cheap shots were fired...twice. Pretty low brow tactics imo.

Actually no it's not but it is not as offensive as Indian or Native. By tribe is what we prefer, and as a collective Indigenous is the acceptable vernacular. Yes, but I actually thought it was funny. Sometimes, we gotta be able to joke around if we are going to really reconcile. Divsion and hate come from being too hard lined imo....but thank you for caring and sticking up for my people.

You are the one dragging me back. Want me gone....say no more. It's easy. Good bye. You complain I am still here, but I am only still here because you decided to take cheap shots at me out the door. I will stay away if you just let me. Deal?

Yes, scrapping for a playoff spot. I see the RIders as being better than the Lions and them in a dead heat with Calgary in terms of quality of team.

I am, but as usual, you refuse to see that because it doesn't fit your narrative. I will not miss your banter on here one bit. I would ask you to stay classy but I know better. Thanks for disrespecting my wishes and efforts to do the same.

lol...of course they do. Your GO LIONS hanky says so. Lions are going to be scrapping for a playoff spot.

To all forum members on this thread. I have come to the decision that talking politics with you guys is not bringing out the best in me, and I wish to withdraw from the conversation. I respectfully ask that you not suck me back into the vortex, ignore my past posts, and just let me be. An unfortunate incident today has me wishing just to leave this thread for my own, and everyone else's, personal happiness. Thanks for understanding. Carry on....great thread.

Thanks I appreciate that.

My sincerest apologies. I am sorry, I thought you were referencing my response to the disgusting grave robbing in BC. Please accept my apologies on that. I was hurt and really didn't remember another reference where I referenced being saddened. In the future if I ever feel like that again I will give any member the benefit of the doubt to clarify through PM. I would also like to apologize to the rest of the forum for my outburst. It's a topic that has been front of mind for me since reading it yesterday, and I should not have assumed anything. I hope you can understand where i was coming from and why that stung me. Respectfully, I am ashamed of that outburst and will leave this discussion as sometimes I get too triggered by it. Have at er guys....it's been a fun past time discussing politics with you all. See you all on the football side of the forum.

I just don't respond to the politics of the left and I'm not the only one waking up to the reality of virtue signalling over substance that is emanating from that. You want to discuss policy, fine....let's do that...but respectfully for a change. Not true at all. However, if that is your world view have at er. You have your beliefs, I have mine. I respect your right to disagree with mine. However, you are right....rarely is it done correctly in the public service unfortunately.

I'm not going to play this game with you. You are going over the top calling elected officials crazy because they don't share your world view and this has been coming from the left of centre for too long now and it is the lowest form of politics there is and is nothing but divisive. Gross. You can tell me I'm wrong about anything you like, unfortunately for you, that just doesn't make it so. WTH do you think you are?

Tons would fit. Make up your own mind. Just as you guys reserve the right to call Pierre Poilievre or Doug Ford crazy, those on the right feel the same way about Justin Trudeau or Nikki Ashton for instance. You guys want to do hit an runs on every politician on the right but demand that anyone criticized on the left have an essay written as to why. It's a crock of **** double standard that you guys use. It is not crazy to want a better economy, a booming resource sector that creates wealth and employment, a decentralized federal government that respects provincial autonomy etc. You guys would love for all elections to be about virtue signalling but Canadian chequebooks are getting decimated right now and you can bet your bottom dollar that most Canadians want to talk economy, inflation, and housing right now. That's not crazy, that's just fact....but you guys will label it crazy and unimportant. How about IDGAF about your opinion on what constitutes crazy because you have labelled some very good people as such. Therefore your little slanderous hit an run isn't worth my time and effort to respond to. Shame on you. Disgusting. Everything that is wrong with politics right now stems from crap like that.

Pick 20 names, any 20, on the left and save me the effort since you seem to feel you have the divine right to just label people and therefore it is true, I will also ask for that same right. What a useless post you've made. Good god. This is why the left is leading polarization of politics right now. Disagree on any issue and you are crazy. What a crock.

The cuts themselves were completely necessary, the problem wasn't the cuts. The problem was cutting them without cutting out the insane level of bureaucracy attached to them first. In order to successfully make cuts in any public or private enterprise, you must first identify correctly the processes that can be eliminated in order to create efficiencies so that dead weight can be lopped off. You can't simply cut the workforce without taking those steps because, and especially in public service, painstaking layers of bureaucracy accompany dead weight positions. You have to remove that first. Don't do that and you are forcing civil servants into the untenable position of maintaining a mostly useless work load for the sake of propping up the artificially created need for a bloated civil service. The PCs lopped off the numbers in the civil service first before identifying and implementing efficiencies to ensure that work load would be manageable at reduced numbers. That was the mistake, not the cuts. My wife has worked in the civil service at the executive level in Family Services for many years before leaving to the private sector. Her biggest frustration was that in order to get a light bulb changed (metaphorically) you had to email someone and go through a daisy chain of emails as this request went through 6 other people for approval and arguments about which department should pay for said light bulb, until finally like most civil servants will tell you it became just easier to do it yourself with a light bulb from home. or learn to work in the dark. Nothing got done, and not because good ideas weren't advanced, but because of the dizzying amount of people who actually had to have their input, debate, and then finally sign off on anything. By the time things are approved and implemented the damage is already done. This was the legacy of a bloated NDP civil service. I used the light bulb metaphor because her favorite joke of her and other higher management friends used was 'How many civil servants does it take to change a light bulb? "Answer: I'm not sure, I'll let you know in a few weeks when all the emails stop coming in."

People who want change tend to vote for change.....and that is precisely what the poll is saying. 81% would favor change. Bottom line....Liberal support is soft as hell. That may not lead to direct support for Poilievre, but it doesn't have to. Voter apathy, protest votes, votes for the NDP from the Liberals will work just as well. As Trudeau has clearly demonstrated a minority of motivated voters, and the CPC voters are highly motivated, can swing an election when the oppositions support is soft.

Bureaucracy is what PREVENTS the government from running smoothly. For every 4 useful federal civil servants I'll find you one simply employed out of bloat. I'm sorry if that hurts your sensibilities but Trudeau is papering the place. The PCs had it right in Manitoba, then took it way too far and way too fast.

Yes, as I stated earlier, the way the cuts and to whom the cuts are made are of paramount importance and the PCs epically bungled that. I'll just leave this here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cost-to-run-federal-government-increase-151b-a-year-1.6797486 Not talking about privatization, I'm talking about optimization. I can accept growth of the public service in line with population growth. That is not what happened.

Epically incorrect. The Nobel prize was awarded to the man who thoroughly destroyed the concepts of Keynesian economics. Also, if you turn back the clock a hundred years you will also find that all of your fears you have listed are not valid due to technology doing this stuff for us. If you think big government keeps economic disparity lower you are incorrect, The bigger the government, the easier it is to corrupt. Also, an involved government does not have to automatically translate to big government. Trudeau's government is the biggest in the past 40 years and is absolutely, factually the most corrupt....without question....not even debatable. Anyone can see that, it seems many here prefer not to do so and that saddens me. What does brighten my day is that in the latest poll by Abacus, 81% of Canadians would like to see a change in federal government. Seems Liberals are jumping ship. Thank god.

In fairness, the Hamilton job was never open for him to take even though he was the most impressive in TC. Like Bigg Jay illustrated Williams was a monster the year before and that position was not going to be anyone else's. We scooped him as soon as we got the chance because he was just flat out good in Hammy's camp.

That party smells like Butts.

I have not noticed any difference at all in the speed at which my passport is ready from pre-Trudeau.....and to be honest...that's some pretty low hanging fruit to be bragging about. Whoopedy doo. That's worth 150 billion. Baloney. What it leads to is socialism, higher taxes, worse economy.

It's common sense, and it's in short supply in the Liberal Party of Canada. I know Trudeau assured us not to worry that the budget would balance itself and not to worry about small details like the economy, but I think after paying 35 bucks for a steak this weekend that most Canadians have seen through that crock.