The Unknown Poster

The best take away from this is Trump threw Barr under the bus as the architect of the attack on the protesters and Barr responded by making Trump a liar about the bunker.  You love to see it.

Nah, I posted it.  I cant recall when.  If I stumble across it Ill re post but nothing really will alter your stance anyway so its not overly important either way.

I remember a large wave of stories about the poor police dogs who had to be unemployed because of dope legalization.  example: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/may/29/oregon-police-dogs-drug-problem-marijuana
it's weird that all of these "won't someone think of the doggos?" stories popped up at the same time.  love dogs as much as the next guy but imprisoning people should not be a goddamn make-work program for genius dogs with amazing noses.
(boy, that'd be a dog that'd have trouble moving on to civilian life in Seattle.  You couldn't walk that dog anywhere where there are people, she would be constantly finding the dope and confused why that wasn't a thing she should do anymore)

nobody, anywhere in North America, at any point, has been in a lockdown. That's a dog-whistle term for some people concerned about their "rights". Italy had a lockdown...police/army in the streets making sure nobody leaves their home. The fact that some people think what we've been going through is a "lockdown" shows just how privileged we really are.

Yet it amazes me that those sycophants who continue to huddle around Trump still think that somehow he will not turn on them or throw them to the wolves when his whole life has been about doing exactly that to his underlings.
 

I love that they're putting the heat on Barr.  hahahahaa  Done these people know that Trump has zero loyalty and will throw anyone under the bus to escape taking responsibility for anything?

Thank God we have a poster or two here who are so consumed with the health of the global economy.  Now I dont have to worry about it and I can just be concerned about the health of humans.

I agree.  But its a sign of the issues coming to a head.  People exaggerate.  And I think its a legitimate frustration.  Its like a negotiation. If you tell the dealership the price you're willing to pay he will counter higher.  People saying Ef the Police, get rid of them altogether...they're angry and frustrated.  Police have LONG needed reform
I interacted with police a lot over the years and it always blew my mind that highly paid officers would sit around for a couple of hours doing witness statements.  Seems like an easy thing to off load on civilians trained in note taking/witness questioning or cadets.  Winnipeg has (or did) one of the largest per population forces in Canada but Ive seen so many calls where 5 or 6 cars respond and they're all "off line" dealing with something that doesnt require them all.
In one case, I heard a call over the ready for a serious incident and for available cars in the area to respond.  No one at my incident did.  Two minutes later, dispatch specifically called an officer on scene and asked if he and partner could respond and he replied no, busy.  
The worst thing to happen to police forces was unions.  Or at least, modern police forces.  Its all about increasing salaries, increasing complement.  And if 80% of calls are not traditional law enforcement, what the fack are we paying cops for?  Compare a cop with a social worker in terms of education and salary and workload.  Compare to nurses.
I know many good cops.  But police reform as been badly needed for a long time.

just want to point out the the shakedowns in Ferguson MO were not about speed trap robots and red light cameras, they were all about armed cops hitting people up in public for BS fines.
red light cameras, we got a real problem with jackwagons running stale reds in Seattle and I'm all for ticketing those guys.  that's so damn dangerous.

Its different.  Any thought that health or government authorities should have stopped the protests is a non starter.  Thats exactly what you dont do when 20,000 people are marching for a cause.  Plus, its different.  This isnt people wanting to get haircuts.  Its an historic protest happening all over the world.  In a perfect scenario, they dont happen...public health comes first.  In this case, you take the risk, or you allow the risk because the greater good is of historic importance.  And the last thing you do is send in swat teams to fight protesters.

You have a report detailing that the rally this past friday did not cause any spread?  And are you basing this on Winnipeg where we have 9 active cases, all of whom surely didnt attend?  Sounds scientific.

The cops like weed arrests for the same reason as they like speed traps- these are easy ways to pad stats with little to no risk. Pot users are about as resistant as a glass of warm milk.

Yeah, I checked MInnesota's stats... there's no wave, no spike - maybe its still coming but you are talking out of your *** currently
1197 deaths - of those 995 deaths are in nursing homes... 550 of those deaths are over 90 (41 over 100)
The same statistics as everywhere... just unreal how people can deny this is a 'nursing home disease' when all the data points directly towards that

Thank God we have a poster or two here who are so consumed with the health of the global economy.  Now I dont have to worry about it and I can just be concerned about the health of humans.

The players play outdoors.  But the crowds gather as close to inside as you can get without a roof.  Masks are a lot less effective when you're consuming food and beer too.

I think your first and third paragraphs put together make a tremendous point.  You look at the federal report on Ferguson MO, which exxonnerated the shooter, but which also pointed out that the Ferguson police force is a shakedown crew plugging holes in the city budget by levying fines that people can't pay, and you can guess the kinds of people that burden landed disproportionally upon. Then you add asset forfeiture in on top of that and you've turned police departments into tax collectors with guns. 
Yet another bad use of the cops.  USA hates taxation, starves the beast, suddenly local governments are turning tax collection over to the goon squad.  And then you wonder why people hate cops?  Who likes tax collectors?

In the early going, the death rate was much higher than the flu but I suppose the experts could have said "hey, we may have something here that is highly contagious and very deadly and carriers may not even know they have it.  Maybe we should wait and see what happens.  If 50 million people die then we know to try harder next time."   So I agree with you 100%.  The fact it may not be as deadly as initially feared is good news not "gotcha" news.  
I bet a lot of these people believe "all lives matter" except the old and sick when it inconveniences me.

Because they are not black, brown, gay, Asian or progressives.

It's a career limiting move, I'm sure. 

Why isnt the KKK listed as a domestic terrorist group?

Twisting oneself into a pretzel to basically say "its just the flu, should never have closed anything, so what if old people die" is really a poor use of ones time.  Especially using hindsight as if it's foresight.  Not tagging anyone specific.  Just sayin' 😉

The point of the lockdown was to take those 30 to 49 year olds who have Covid and stop them from spreading it to people who are more vulnerable.  Since Covid is so much more infectious that other things (like the flu), that was why the lockdown was required.  As has been missed by many over and over again, it's not that Covid is extra deadly, it's that Covid is extra infectious.  The more people who get infected, the more you put more vulnerable people at risk.

As another way of looking at police violence, an ER nurse posted that they see intoxicated, confused, angry and violent people every day day and haven't killed one of them. A bit of an oversimplification, but a good point nonetheless.

I've been thinking about this a lot and while we in the USA point fingers at bad cops, I think that failure in civilian leadership is a huge part of the root cause.
The USA prioritizes heroes over caretakers.  This means that as every other social service has been defunded, cop departments have gotten fatter and fatter and have taken on responsibilities that are really not responsibilities that call for heroic armed response.  Like a wellness check.  You're worried about the senior next door, the person you send shouldn't be armed unless that senior is setting up a sniper nest.  You got a jumper ready to jump off a bridge?  Response doesn't need to be armed.  You got a traffic accident or a speeding ticket?  Response doesn't need to be armed.
Anyone from the lowest sinner to the saintliest saint is going to get cynical when they're asked to do an impossible job.  A modern American big-city cop has to be a social worker, EMT, a peacekeeper, and a peacemaker, a dozen other things.  That's too many goddamn jobs.  And the cynicism that rightfully evolves from that is a great place for bad bad **** -- from roided out Spartan thin blue line cops to white supremacy -- to grow. 
And note that domestics, esp. violent ones, are a special ******* nightmare, because those are at a really hard intersection of social work and public safety work.  Got no answer for that.
So yeah, we gotta weed out some bad hombres in the police department -- but we also have to change the job description.  I do want the state to have the ability to confront people who are armed and who are hurting civilians.  But I don't want the state armed response agency to be the single universal number to call when there's something going on that's a little weird or unusual -- or when someone runs a stop sign.