The Unknown Poster

All downhill from there. Shane/Taker was great. Everything else was lousy. THREE Hunter segments??? Good grief.

The good news is he gets one free shot at an official tonight with no repercussions.

Great review bearpants. One thing I discussed with friends this weekend was how Superman was portrayed. I don't hate it. And he will always be compared unfavourably to Reeve. But I think what was missing was the "hope". He kept talking about it but never showed it and yes we can say this is early Superman but Snyder chose to fast forward the narrative to get to JLA. Without that juxtaposition between the infinite hope of Superman and the darkness of batman the film lost something. Even if we accept its a different superman who never really wears a costume then we have to complain about Bruce never showing his "costume" (bruce). Needed that emotional dichotomy. The Robin reference was when batman was in the cave staring at the bat suit. As he walks out he glances up at a second suit. It was the Robin suit and had the words "hahaha jokes on you Batman" scrawled on it. Doesn't tell us anything but the assumption is part of what drove batman darker was the murder of Robin.

Im currently half deaf in one year due to an inner ear issue so it was annoying for me. So it did sound a bit loud. Though I've been to film where I'm straining to hear so louder is better. It may be that Wonder Woman's theme is very heavy. I enjoyed. Though it was a bit cheesy that they had Doomsday do something three straight times and everytime as the smoke cleared it was doing the slow zoom/reveal of Wonder Woman with her theme pounding. Trying too hard for that "saves the boys" moment....three times. Film made $450m world wide. So no accounting for taste lol and Snyder will be the vision behind JLA films unfortunately. But he's not doing batman or Wonder Woman so I'm looking forward to those.

Im sure they want him signed so he is working with their development program all summer. Need him ready for next season.

Im sucker for a things like this if it's done well. Looks really interesting.

I agree he should sign and get up here and start getting acclimated to the jets. But no point in burning a year for one or two meaningless games

One game burns an entire year? Really? Was that the case for Copp who played one game?

The thing is they seem to be assuming fans know all this. This isn't like Avengers where several had their own films and there was a sensical narrative running throughout. On one hand they show bruce having nightmares. For example right off the hop when young bruce levitates admits swarming bats, my buddy turns to me and says oh give me a break. But bruce says its a dream. So is a dream or a flashback? If it's a flashback that is idiotic. And comes too close to comparing batman in a Christ-like image to Superman who routinely is compared to Jesus. The scene was silly but if it's just a dream, so be it. Bruce refers to other nightmares he has. Ofcourse we see the future wasteland dream. Then Bruce wakes up. Then flash appears. Then he wakes up again. So was it a dream or reality? If reality then how is Bruce seeing the future? I took the Flash scene as being "real" since its in keeping with his powers and I think it was a red herring. It wasn't meant to be Bruce's image of the future though we were supposed to think that. Because in that moment we assume Flash was talking about Superman. I assume he meant Lex. Bruce thought Lex was the white Portuguese. Then realized it was a ship. Flash was telling him he was right. Lois being the key meaning she figured it out but again I could be completely wrong. And it's not that I want to be told everything. But there is a difference bryween mystery and making something not make sense on purpose to trick the viewer. The scene was never mentioned again. No connection was made that it was flash. Bruce never seems bothered or interested. Another scene that might have been better at the end credits. Soeaking of the end, Bruce tells Diana he will find the other Meta's. Why? Because we need them. Why? I have a feeling. Huh?? Its like Snyder was so desperate to craft an Avengers-level film without the talent to do so. And without the patience to start from the beginning like marvel did. Batman is the iron man of DC. He's the guy linking the characters or so it seems. They should have taken a step back and told that story. It's just so messy and thrown together. Like scenes in a blender. Snyder is like a poor karaoke singer in a dive bar surrounded by drunks who looks in the mirror and thinks he's frank Sinatra. He's not as good as he thinks he is and that is hurting the whole DC thing. WB needs to step in. They have Affleck. Maybe he's the answer. Maybe he's not. But Snyder has had two kicks at the can and Missed both.

This is unfortunate in a way. It will make WB think Snyder knows what he's doing. He doesn't.

What was that odd Flash segment about when he was warning Bruce? Again if you're not up on the mythology of this whole thing you'd be confused as hell. The scene where Wonder Woman views the other meta humans would have been a great post credit scene. It had no relevance to the rest of the film other then to connect bruce and Prince which could have better happened a different way. Snyder has a bad habit of this...did it on MoS too when he wants to get from plot point A to plot point B but doesn't know how he waves a magic wand the creation of doomsday....batman and Superman becoming buddies things happen to move the plot rather then the plot moving things it was really arduous

I'm not sure you even know what you're arguing since my first post after the verdict was that it was the correct verdict. Stockholm syndrome isn't the correct comparison.

Well I guess wrapping your hands around a women's throat might be fun for some people but not me. But that's not really the point. You can't dismiss accusations by the actions of the accusers because their actions are reasonable for victims. Unfortunately they are also reasonable for people who are "spurned lovers". And once there was that doubt you can't convict. But dismissing the accusations as false because the women continued to have contact with him isnt fair. Undoubtably he did it. The issue was consent.

I don't think it was after the WM match. Might have been a match on SD. I can't recall the details but they got into it backstage. More of a pride boiled over thing. Cooler heads prevailed. Eddie was an admitted hot head. He was very passionate. I was sitting near the ring for a show when some jerk at WPG arena poured a beer on him and Eddie hopped the barricade and went after him. Then he apologized after the match!

The more i reflect on this film the more angry I am at Snyder. JLA begins filming next month. I wish there was a way for WB to replace him before then.

Yeah I think they needed to show us more.

Correct. No end credits. However there was a scene during the film that had nothing to do with anything else in the movie that should have been the end credit scene.

I think you're ignoring an awful lot about victimization.

I don't think they showed Batman's motivation very well. At least not to explain his hatred of superman. And he immediately goes from wanting to kill Superman to being his friend. That part was awful.

I want to say it's terrible. I might even say that in time. But there was enough good things that tantalizingly tease us for the future. The big thing is, there is no joy in this movie. Everything is dark, stoic, angry, dramatic, heavy. Every single thing. Normally I prefer dark but this was just a poorly made film that didn't take the audience on an emotional ride. There was only one emotion. It looked beautiful. Affleck was good as batman. However the key thing about batman is that batman is who he is and bruce Wayne is his costume and yet we didn't see Bruce Wayne wearing his costume so to speak. They hint at this bring a more brutal Batman, which is fine, due to loss and weariness. But didn't show is or tell us. If you are someone who doesn't pay attention to online news you'd very easily miss the Robin thing. The idea of a world trying to figure out what Superman stands for is good. But they didn't have time to flesh it out. It was both rushed and boring in a way because things happened without really meaning anything. The senator was very good though. Jesse Eisenberg is awful. He's the most obnoxious alleged actor, and I say alleged because I'm not sure we've ever seen him act. I hated his Lex. It didn't make me root against him. It made me hate the performance. It was silly and over the top and goofy and hurt the film. Gal Gadot might have been the stand out. She was beautiful and femine but with a subtle power and strength. She nailed the character. Again, if you're not sure about the idea of a Justice Leage, then her being there sort of is confusing. But it builds to her reveal as Wonder Woman which, had the film not been such a downer, could have elicited cheers from the crowd. I'll come back with more later.

While waiting for the end credits a guy a few rows back says "the end credit scene should be an apology". It felt like a film that gets screened before the editing process. But I won't say much more here

I'll go to spoiler later on. But sitting on the theatre now watching end credits and I feel like I was best up for two hours. Flashes of cool and great. Too much none sense. Snyder needs to stop.

For those that have seen BvS can to provide a non-spoiler thumbs up/thumbs down style rating here? I'm fighting the urge to click the spoiler thread lol

If ISIS has the ways and means of setting off a dirty bomb in the US they will. And a "nice" President isn't going to stop them.