Mr. Perfect

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Prospect-of-the-day-Cincinnati-QB-Zach-Collaros.html http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2012/QB/Zach-Collaros Two scouting reports on Collaros that question his footwork and his ability under pressure. http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2009dwilly.php Willy is noted for being solid under pressure - and whoever is here will need to be at least in 2014 because the line is going to need some time to be considered in the upper echelon in the CFL. Not saying Collaros is a bad QB or anything like that. He's proven he's capable. I just don't think he fits here with what we have. Yes the sample size is smaller on Willy (sample size was even smaller on Reilly if you recall but showed he's a pretty good passes this year) but Willy can do the things you need done in Winnipeg. I'm not convinced Collaros can bring that.

Yes and that is why he isn't playing in the NFL? How is that relevant? Ray gives you the complete package as a QB (Reading a defense, accuracy, knowing what passes need touch, footwork, mechanics, etc) but is not in the NFL. It's relevant because you said he is the complete package. Obviously he's not, or he would still be playing there. Just because Ray plays well in the CFL doesn't mean he would ever be a very good NFL quarterback. I'll take him, but if you read some of the scouting reports, they're good, but he is not the complete package. Of course it doesn't. That's why the Jets cut him when Ray tried the NFL during training camp. The point was is that Ray (and Willy, though they are different style of passers) do everything well that you need to do to be successful in the CFL. Your NFL point is irrelevant.

If you go back and watch some highlights on YouTube of Argos games (or look at some scouting reports of Collaros) his footwork and mechanics break down under pressure, hence my hesitance on him being the guy here behind our presently crap offensive line.

Yes and that is why he isn't playing in the NFL? How is that relevant? Ray gives you the complete package as a QB (Reading a defense, accuracy, knowing what passes need touch, footwork, mechanics, etc) but is not in the NFL.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I really hope somehow Willy is with us next year. I have nothing against Collaros, I think he is serviceable. That being said he has flaws in his game that I don't see in Willy. Willy provides the complete package you want in a passer.

I'll take Richard Sherman's honesty any day. Everyone complaining can have all the cliches that athletes of today give you. I'll take THAT instead.

what we know now isn't much, certainly not enough to make any kind of expectations for the team. What if they trade for Ricky Ray before the season? That dramatically changes expectations. Until I see the coaching staff and who is going to be at quarterback there is no point in talking about expectations. If you don't want to participate in the thread then don't post and ruin the thread. BTW: We aren't trading for Ricky Ray. He isn't ruining the thread at all. Free agency hasn't happened, neither has the draft, and our coaching staff isn't complete, nevermind potential trades that may or may not happen not only between us but other teams as well. It's a valid point.

Miles, and it shouldn't be close.

Jay Cutler had some terrible footwork and Marc Trestman made huge improvements to that in Bears training camp this season. They also went out and addressed the offensive line this offseason a well. Through 15 games last season , the Bears had given up 56 sacks .. going into last night they'd only given up 24. When you have time to set up, those fundamentals don't slide nearly as much .. I only make this note because it's an area where the Bombers also need to improve ..protecting the QB BINGO! The footwook issues will only magnify behind a more porous offensive line.

Considering Vega and Turner probably didn't come cheap, I doubt this happens. Defensive end is easy to recruit. Not sure how I'd feel about paying three guys handsomely on the defensive line potentially. The distribution could be better.

Willy seems to be much more polished under pressure. Things like footwork aren't as easily correctable as reading a defence, knowing when to audible, what to audible to, etc.

Footwork concerns is one of the issues I have with him especially under pressure. Coupled that with our offensive line, and I admit I am a little bit nervous as to how well Collaros would really fit in here.

Mike Gibson hey? Wow

His last stint with the Riders was awful. Players and fellow coaches hated the scheme. Too confusing.

Sandro was no hell at kickoffs either. He managed just 7/10 of a yard better than Palardy. Both lagged the rest of the league by a good five yards. And Palardy's longest FG of the year was a yard longer than Sandro's. We shoulda kept Palardy. In fairness, you're essentially arguing over full blown diarrhea or lumpy 50% diarrhea. Both are crap, both are gone. Move on.

Arash Madani ‏@ArashMadani1m FWIW, the #Bombers emphatically denied Kavis Reed will be their next def coordinator. This after I was told Stubler was Calgary bound. #CFL

Kirk Penton ‏@PentonKirk12m The re-signings have begun. I'm hearing #Bombers have given new deals to P Mike Renaud and OL Steve Morley. #CFL

Not the most sterling accomplishment in the world considering how it was previously...

**** sakes...

I love how Desjardins said his picks should be obvious, then he goes and takes three fullbacks. Brilliant.

Louie Sakoda coming up soon...

Glenn and Demarco the QB's.

Calgary Herald writer.... Vicki Hall ‏@vickihallch2m Sources say it's done: Kevin Glenn to Ottawa....

http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/93843 "Certainly not at the quarterback position are we going to select a free agent." So obviously one of Tate or Glenn will be the QB taken for them as a starter. It will be interesting to see, if he follows through on the quote what free agent players he selects at other positions. A slightly different stance from saying he won't select any pending free agent. As an aside, anyone skeptical about his ability to build a team as a winner? He struggled mightily and had the budget to acquire players as Hamilton was very active in trading and free agency at the time during his stint there.

What were you hoping for in a waiver draft you probably didn't know existed before today? DING DING DING!! We have a winner!!