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oh yeah cause a guy whose only qualifications are that he does TSNs draft coverage is a sure bet to take over as a GM. Come on give me a break here. Forde won't be the next GM anywhere in the CFL because he hasn't done a damned thing to earn that job.

there is an interesting thing going on in Winnipeg. The defense is all about getting younger and faster and replacing veterans who can't do the job... on offense it's the opposite. Veterans are given no end of slack and will not be replaced no matter how poorly they played... this is causing Morley to keep getting chances despite being terrible and hearing for a long time now how Swiston is basically just as good and pushing him all the time... so why isn't the same standard held for offense and defense?

Can't believe it's 2 years already.... man does time fly.

dare to dream but could you imagine if for some reason they both wound up coming up here? That'd be a big boon to the NI depth.

because that doesn't fit his flawed line of thinking.

and how's that worked out for the past 20 years? Haven't developed a qb in that time, haven't had organizational depth in that time... and the biggest reason for that is that coaches and GMs are fired at the slightest slip up and then we're back to starting from square one. A little patience would go a LONG way to solving those problems. Everyone bitched about them at the time, but wouldn't Doug Berry and Kevin Glenn look better than what we have now? But we don't have them because of the attitude that you are expressing here.

impossible since there is no such thing as a bad Justin.

It's not that though. It's simply more pointing out that you can't judge draft picks until a few years have gone by. Etienne was sepen as a massive bust and terrible pick at the time meanwhile everyone and their dog agreed that if Poblah was eligible for the actual draft he likely would have been the #1 overall pick. Just goes to show that I find it amazing how guys are justifying how Etienne was a good pick by throwing Poblah under the bus...really just serves to back up the idea that pre-draft rankings aren't all they're cracked up to be since a couple years after being selected one guy is starting to show that he looks like he can be a solid contributer and one guy still has a hell of a lot to prove.

Things that can be said of basically every backup qbs to come through the CFL ever. Doesn't mean guys always live up to that potential, especially when they're saddled with bad teams. There aren't a hell of a lot of 2nd chances given to qbs in the situation Reilly is in.

I think you are mistaken in what you think people think Goltz is able to do... No one is claiming him to be the messiah, just that at this point he's more athletic and seems more aware than PIerce... which is not a high bar at all. In fact it's the very definition of setting a low bar. I'll say this too. Bomber fans have a much more realistic expectation of Goltz than Stamps fans do of Bo Levi MItchell. Read a lot of comments from them lately about how awesome it is that they can throw out that many qbs who are good and what not. Bomber fans are simply recognizing that PIerce has been horrendous and see Goltz being able to move better (which is undeniable at this point) and seeming to be able to improvise when things break down better and are hoping he takes the job away.

but that excerpt only deals with one player, says absolutely nothing about what happens after a player is selected by a team.

no there is a back of the line rule. You sucessfully get a player you drop to the bottom of waiver priority. I don't think however that a lot of teams were bidding on laurent. The story was that the only team that really did a lot of legwork on him were the esks and that it was unlikely anyone but them would be taking him. Everyone else was focussed on Poblah

wow did the esks waste a ton of time at the end to call a ******* hand off in shotgun.... if that's your one play to win it all you deserve to lose.

I know people in edmonton are high on crompton, but all I see is a guy who's got the deer in the head lights look. There is no way he is ready to be in there right now.

and Reilly out of the game... but damn Mack for not giving up a first round pick just to talk to the guy

I'd like to thank the esks for making the bombers look like a cohesive team. That INT by Reilly was pretty brutal, especially the position on the field he threw it.

but come on, we can make ourselves feel better knowing that other teams are as crap on O as we are.

Discussion of our Thursday game if anyone is interested.... LOL at both these offenses.

how about NOT firing everyone all the time...

This. Burke is a hell of a coordinator, there's no doubt about that, but as a head coach he's still got a lot to prove. Taking over last year and having 2 of the first 3 weeks where the team just absolutely rolled over and died was not a good start. Then he stuck with an obviously finished qb and he's 1-3 to start this year with the offense looking horrible the whole time... I don't want to throw him under the bus but so far he's not proving a lot as head coach.

but the only kind of GMs who are willing to inherit poor coaches are the Ed Herveys of the world.

you mean the game where marcus howell was the best db we dressed? ESPN Classic Canada still shows that game sometimes as a "classic" CFL matchup, it's ugly to watch now as it was back then.

washington was like the only DB that had a good game against toronto. Markett looked like the biggest victim of Ray running for a td and unfortunately wasn't able to snag an int when the ball went through his hands but he was better than most of the dbs that night as well. I thought Sears was all in all pretty useless at SAM when he was in there so Washington can't be worse.

you beat me too it. Those comments are very nice to read cause it tells me that the stamps d-line has no idea what Goltz can do. Much more athletic than Pierce at this point AND much more aware and able to make a decision with the ball (ie. doesn't hold it as long)

seconded, but honestly the guy I want to see NOT doing returns is Johnson. Seemed like he spent more time rolling on the ground on punt returns last week than actually returning the ball.