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it was pretty straight forward against Calgary. When they brought pressure with more bodies the coverage was too slack and BLM picked em apart.

Against Montreal I would agree that Willy was bad, he was very inaccurate, but against Calgary he was getting the ball where it needed to go most of the time. There were a lot of drops in that game that ended drives and there were too many times when they handed the ball off and lost yards. Then when the D isn't getting off the field and letting the stamps march for points every series you don't get a chance to go back on the field. I am not trying to say it was a great performance or anything, but Willy is taking a lot of undeserved crap after that game because of the historical problems this team has had and because he was poor in week 1.

Reading the D isn't Willy's problem. Getting the ball out fast enough and accurate enough maybe but it's not the reading. He makes good decisions I find it is the execution that sometimes fails. I think he is just a bit gun-shy after all of the hits he has taken

But could have had 6 more points vs. the stamps in the first half but they faked a fg early and botched the clock at the end. I am telling you Willy was not that bad but the team wasn't good. Especially the defense

You might learn something if you do though

Oh they blitzed against Calgary plenty. Johnson came from the secondary multiple times but never got home.

Complete insult to Washington who is a far better dB than Harris ever was. We miss Washington badly right now.

You also don't win with a defense that doesn't force the opposing team into it's 2nd punt until the 4th quarter. Seriously if the defense didn't collectively crap their pants so hard you would all have a different opinion of the offense. Hell Adams doesn't have a blatant drop on a first down on the first drive who knows what might have happened because Willy was hitting everything until that point and then 2nd and long gave this team fits all night, which happens to every god damned team in the CFL. Bombers D just didn't force the stamps into many 2nd and longs.

People should go watch that Calgary game again. Willy was not the problem. He may not have put the team on his back and dragged them along but he was pretty accurate all things considered. Had some drops, some offensive line dog ******* and yes some misses but bo levi mitchell missed some too. His team helped him more.

But also a known quantity and not really an unknown discovery

Wild is the last Mack remnant on the team, of course he can play. We have been waiting for Walters to recruit a defensive end who can play forever, hasn't done it. The secondary outside of Randle is a joke after rewatching the game. Walters problem is that he can bring in free agents from around the league but he is terrible at finding players on his own. He may have finally found some receivers who can play but it's taken 3 seasons. Where is the home grown depth? The drafting hasn't been so **** hot, the interior of the offensive line which are his best draft picks are hit and miss too. You can not possibly excuse Walters in this. Never mind that if you really believe that the coach is horrible who do you think hired the coach?

If you fire O'Shea it'll be either Hall or Lapo taking over don't kid yourselves.

You know I am rewatching the game from Friday, here's what Chris Cuthbert says right after the last touchdown the stamps got that quarter.... "The Stamps have only punted once in 6 possessions this half" Go on, process that and tell me that it's all because the D was tired because the offense didn't stay on the field long enough. Truthfully the offense wasn't even THAT bad, just that the D never got off the field to give the offence a chance to get things rolling. Willy was fine in that first half, but some drops and some shitty OL play ended a few drives prematurely on him.

It's absolutely a cop out excuse, especially in that game. Even with a lopsided TOP a D doesn't get gassed by the 2nd quarter. The D was just flat out bad all on their own. There was one drive where the Stamps started under their own goal posts and marched for a touchdown. Think it was right after half too. No tired excuses there, just flat out terrible play by the unit.

Obviously with hindsight it's a terrible call but I like the aggressiveness of it. It was early in the game so you got all sorts of time to rebound if it doesn't work and if it does work you get some early momentum. The D falling apart over the course of the game was by far the biggest concern. Everyone is on the offence but I am less worried about them than the defense.

and if I recall the challenge they used really had no chance of being over turned.

my point is that if we had some guys who could run block it would mean the run game would work better and take some heat off Willy that way. I look at a guy like Matt Sheridan back in the day, not really that great a lineman all around but he was a big mean SOB and he could move people out of the way for Roberts and it made the job easier for the qbs at the time. I am not really interested in what the stats say about Harris' average, we see what the stats say about Willy and we know that won't float. Harris got stuff when they tried to go to him, this team constantly has trouble in short yardage situations. I would suggest that this team lacks some meanness and strength in the inside. You can fix a lot of problems with coaching but if guys are not physically up to par not much is going to change.

Can we just stop talking about firing people midseason? It's not going to save this season and all you do is get an easy out for next season so you waste 2 seasons at minimum. We are committed to O'Shea and Walters this season might as well get used to it. If they keep ******* the dog then we can talk about blowing it up in the offseason, but this year is not going to see any kind of real change no matter who you fire.

I don't remember if they used one or not but I do remember ranting at the time about how they were pissing away all the time they had left.

Oh please, as far as shitty games to be at in Alberta this doesn't even crack the top 5.

yeah there was no chance it was out of bounds from my seat in the stands. Clock was running and by the time they decided to A) throw the ball and B ) Harris went down the clock was empty on the final play.

I refuse to pin all of this or even most of this on the qb. We have a great runningback and they are trying to get him established and it's not working. We know Harris can make things happen on the field, but he isn't and the reason is pretty simple. He's got no room to run with until the D backs off in the 4th quarter because the score is out of reach. It's high time they stop ******* around with the OL and get some American hogs in there who can make **** happen. Seemed like after every play one of the interior guys was getting picks up off the turf. You can't run and offense when the middle of your line isn't really doing much but getting pushed around.

You know what I hate about Lapo and always have? He's big on getting 5 or 7 yards passing on first down and then running the ball on 2nd. Saw it against Calgary too, with predictable results. Defence blows up the OL and we get maybe a yard out of it and punt.

Ok it is possible i am choosing to only remember the few times i saw him make tackles. There were lots on the other side of the field where i couldn't see who was whiffing on tackles

Special teams have been the best facet of the team and he is running them. I never cared for Hall and his soft defended or bellefool or call as OCs but I like O'Shea and think the talent level on this team is not good enough.