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No even in 2007 when he was damned close to the MVP the knock on Glenn was his inconsistency in the deep ball. I think you are remembering later career Glenn more so than early career Glenn. The two are very similar players.

I will go back to the Messam train, don't let me down this time....

But as players I don't think they're all that dissimilar. Obviously Glenn got starts consistently earlier in his career than Willy did, with some better teams but the way they play the game not so different.

Calgary really is Toronto west sometimes. I like the city but there seems to be a lot of people trying to be more than they are rather than just embracing what they are.

Give him til next week and I suspect that's what you will see. Bunch of ball hawks.

Calgary sports fans are horrible people. To a lot of them the CFL isn't good enough, more NFL interest from the general population than CFL, but Noeller is right, a lot of the delta bravos in this town would rather go watch a stupid UFC event than the CFL. This town has a lot of the most annoying sports fans going.

Of course you can come back from it. Confidence might be hard to rebuild but it can be done.

Certainly makes it appear to be a meritocracy. Adams wasn't great against the Riders, probably to be expected with as long a layoff as he's had and I've really liked Fredericks game so happy that he still gets to play. I anticipate it'll be a good battle for spots the rest of the year and hopefully it pushes everyone to be better.

qb pressure is loosely defined as any time a defender makes a little bit of pee come out of the qb from fear.

TSN talked about that, I forget who it was but they were giving Dressler tons of props for always being a creative guy doing different things to get open and he really did make Cox look like a jackass on the play.

Running I'm really not concerned about, the OL we have now can move bodies and give backs room to work with, where you lose Harris is in the passing game cause he really is a key part of that.

It was loud at the start and the boring offensive games quieted things down, happens when a game settles in to be fairly dull.

Was Stoudemire not a DB by trade?

That brings up an interesting thing too, when my brother had season tickets for the Stamps there was a family had seasons a few rows down, their kid would always cheer for the visiting team just to be like that. I'm not saying that happened in this case but sometimes kids can be trolls too.

I get that Sheppard does well at other aspects of the game but man I can't understand why he plays and Mayo doesn't. Is the primary job of a receiver not to get open and catch the ball? Seems to me that Mayo is better at that then Sheppard.

the CFL and the NFL are not the same. you can win with stout defense for sure, lots of teams have done it, but you're playing with fire when you always need your D to generate 3 or 4 turn overs a game.

The sad fact is that there are lots of people out there who simply want attention and love to be outraged about something and are perfectly willing to embellish a story to make themselves look like a martyr. Those are the types that are quick to get the media involved in every little thing.

I dunno something about this doesn't smell right. I'll believe there were people acting like *******, no question about it, you get enough people together in the same place there are going to be some arseholes no question, but a lot of this just seems absurd to the point where I question the story.

No one is complaining about the trade, everyone is unanimous that it was a great deal by Walters, what some people are arguing against is the smear campaign that has been going on against Drew Willy since game one.

and if he does look good in Toronto will you be eating a serving of humble pie?

We can? Thanks!

Oh come on, the list of players who will willingly re-structure a deal is miniscule. It's a cut throat business and guys are always one hit away from not being able to make that living anymore. Teams can cut players at the drop of a hat so that level or consideration is automatically out the window. I have no doubts Drew was a fine team mate through all of this because it's a small league, if there were problems we'd have heard about it. The fact that you have Barker and Milanovich lamenting that they had to give up a player they didn't really want to lose and a first round pick to get Willy indicates that this wasn't a trade for the sake of making a trade but it was getting a good payment for Willy. If the price wasn't there I don't think we'd be sitting here now talking about the Willy trade.

I would suggest message boards skew older than younger. It's old tech. The kids today are on twitters or whatever else they have.

I don't believe they were better off to be honest with you. At absolute worst Kevin Glenn and Willy as a saw off at backup qb, but Glenn could very well be superior. Then we added a db who is not too shabby as well which is also a good thing. Getting another first round pick helps the team stay good in the future because depth is the difference between winning seasons and losing seasons.

as a team collectively sure you bet, but you can look at each phase individually too and see what is working and what needs to be better and quite frankly the offense needs to be better. Let's not even talk point, let's talk putting drives together to keep the defense on the sidelines and not tempt fate by letting the other team have more chances with the ball. They do that and all of a sudden we don't need to watch sphincter clenching games that come down to a late mistake by the other team to pull out the win we'll be able to cruise and the only thing we'll have to complain about is the other team getting some garbage time points.