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Did you know...
Frank Gunston, MD of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada passed away on February 16, 2016 at his home in Brandon, Mb. He is credited with inventing the first artificial knee in 1963. Dr. Gunston worked as an associate of Sir John Charnley, MD through a traveling hip arthroplasty fellowship at Wrightington in Lancashire, England. He became interested in arthritis of the knee after observing hip patients also having pain in their knees. According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Dr. Gunston developed a knee replacement by combining “plastic and metallic elements in a set of tracks, attached to the top of the tibia with matching set of metal inserts fastened to the femur, allowing the joint to work together by moving along a runner.” He was not interested in patenting his work, but instead made it available to everyone. Full story.
https://www.aahks.org/knee-replacement-pioneer-dies-at-82/

Did you know...
Frank Gunston, MD of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada passed away on February 16, 2016 at his home in Brandon, Mb. He is credited with inventing the first artificial knee in 1963. Dr. Gunston worked as an associate of Sir John Charnley, MD through a traveling hip arthroplasty fellowship at Wrightington in Lancashire, England. He became interested in arthritis of the knee after observing hip patients also having pain in their knees. According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Dr. Gunston developed a knee replacement by combining “plastic and metallic elements in a set of tracks, attached to the top of the tibia with matching set of metal inserts fastened to the femur, allowing the joint to work together by moving along a runner.” He was not interested in patenting his work, but instead made it available to everyone. Full story.
https://www.aahks.org/knee-replacement-pioneer-dies-at-82/

Did you know...
Frank Gunston, MD of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada passed away on February 16, 2016 at his home in Brandon, Mb. He is credited with inventing the first artificial knee in 1963. Dr. Gunston worked as an associate of Sir John Charnley, MD through a traveling hip arthroplasty fellowship at Wrightington in Lancashire, England. He became interested in arthritis of the knee after observing hip patients also having pain in their knees. According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Dr. Gunston developed a knee replacement by combining “plastic and metallic elements in a set of tracks, attached to the top of the tibia with matching set of metal inserts fastened to the femur, allowing the joint to work together by moving along a runner.” He was not interested in patenting his work, but instead made it available to everyone. Full story.
https://www.aahks.org/knee-replacement-pioneer-dies-at-82/

Did you know...
Frank Gunston, MD of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada passed away on February 16, 2016 at his home in Brandon, Mb. He is credited with inventing the first artificial knee in 1963. Dr. Gunston worked as an associate of Sir John Charnley, MD through a traveling hip arthroplasty fellowship at Wrightington in Lancashire, England. He became interested in arthritis of the knee after observing hip patients also having pain in their knees. According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Dr. Gunston developed a knee replacement by combining “plastic and metallic elements in a set of tracks, attached to the top of the tibia with matching set of metal inserts fastened to the femur, allowing the joint to work together by moving along a runner.” He was not interested in patenting his work, but instead made it available to everyone. Full story.
https://www.aahks.org/knee-replacement-pioneer-dies-at-82/

Millions of people like me owe him a debt of gratitude that we never paid off. May Dr. Gunston RIP. 

Did you know...
Frank Gunston, MD of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada passed away on February 16, 2016 at his home in Brandon, Mb. He is credited with inventing the first artificial knee in 1963. Dr. Gunston worked as an associate of Sir John Charnley, MD through a traveling hip arthroplasty fellowship at Wrightington in Lancashire, England. He became interested in arthritis of the knee after observing hip patients also having pain in their knees. According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Dr. Gunston developed a knee replacement by combining “plastic and metallic elements in a set of tracks, attached to the top of the tibia with matching set of metal inserts fastened to the femur, allowing the joint to work together by moving along a runner.” He was not interested in patenting his work, but instead made it available to everyone. Full story.
https://www.aahks.org/knee-replacement-pioneer-dies-at-82/

Not to mention that the angle of the sun is far, far less obtuse in May than Nov...so any sun is going to feel much warmer.

I've lived from May long to September long in Northern Manitoba for the past 35 years. Are there some stinker days in mid May...sure. But you are grossly exaggerating and out to lunch to suggest it is worse weather than November, and the rest of your post is just non-sensical. Moving up the season a month does not represent any danger to our league, the game, nor would we be playing 4 down football. That's just a massive over reaction.
Your Dad's bad fishing trip luck aside let's actually use some historical data from Environmental Canada shall we:
WINNIPEG Historical weather month by month:
MAY  18/7 celcius high and low with avg 6 days precipitation
NOVEMBER 1/-6 avg high low with 4 days of precipitation
I get it that you are opposed to starting the season earlier but let's not pretend that your reasoning that weather is worse than November is sound. It is your choice and I respect your opinion on it, as you have your reasons but to suggest that November has better weather than MAY is nonsense.
If you move the season up one month for a MAY training camp with a first week of June start date you get 4 extra games in summer month and a Grey Cup around 3rd week of October where it is reasonable to expect it to be chilly but still good football weather. How this would make us into the XFL or convert us to American football is unclear to me.

We are all created as perfect, all-knowing souls. We are created with total wisdom and knowledge...the problem is knowledge without experience is hollow/useless.
I can tell you what snow is...but until you experience it...see it, touch it, feel the sensation of it crunching under your boots, making it into a snowball...you don't really know what it is.
You can read books about love but until you experience it you really have no idea.
That's what life is...it is to experience existence. This isn't a waiting room...it is the destination. We choose to be here. Every new experience helps us come to a greater understanding of who we actually are.
We live in a universe of relativity. I'm only tall because someone else is short.
In the absence of experience how could we make any determinations about who we are?
Think of it like this...imagine you just came into existence...alone...floating in a completely empty, formless space. In that context who are you?
Now imagine a small black dot appears in the ether. With that small dot you can now begin to make some determinations about who you are. It's there, I'm here. It's small, I'm large. It's round, I'm elongated. It's static, I'm mobile. In my case...it's dark, I'm light.
You can make all those determinations based on nothing more than a small, black dot. Life on Earth is an opportunity to experience billions of different things/emotions...and with each experience (good/bad or indifferent) you come ever closer to determining/remembering who you really are.
Life is all about the experience. Enjoy/appreciate it.

My condolences on losing your baby daughter. I know it's something you'll never totally get over. My sympathies. Your loss puts what happened to the Bombers in the proper perspective. Losing the Grey Cup wasn't life threatening or the end of the world. It's only a game. Something we all love & take seriously. However, it's still a game. Life on the other hand goes on.

To give a different spin on this, the Buddhists say that our existences here are for three purposes:
to wonder,
to struggle
and to grow. .
I cannot recall who said it but everyone we meet is fighting a battle we know nothing about. Therefore, we should always be kind to all.  Some time ago, I was on my way home from a long, hard night as an EMT, I pulled up beside a car that has stopped at light just as the sun was beginning to come up. The driver was on my right and as soon as the light changed, he hit the gas and hung a left turn right in front of me. I was tired and a bit slow starting off, which was fortunate, because I had to stand my car on its nose to avoid t-boning him. He had also hit his brakes, coming to a halt about a foot away. I was tired, and cranky, opened my door, got out and was fully prepared to tear him a new one. As I approached him, he rolled his window down and began to babble an apology, but with tears streaming down his face. He was obviously distraught and between sobs told me that he had just come from the hospital where his wife had just died. My anger immediately disappeared, and as I waved him off on his way home, I felt horrible and did for days. 
Be kind. Always.

Awesome man, I wish all Rider fans were like you. That is not to say that there aren't more, they just aren't the ones we hear from and don't sweat your team too much, they have a committed fan base and the money to turn things around once they get their heads out of their butt. Realistically, the Bombers and Riders are head and shoulder above all the teams in the league in their ability to be competitive year in and year out. Like anything else it just takes the right people at the top.

I used to get very upset, just ask anyone in a group game with me on Xbox Live, but as I've aged I've mellowed considerably.  Sure seeing the Bomber lose was heart breaking, but for me it was a temporary thing.  During the game, I've flip on the ref for missing an obvious call, or the command center for again screwing the Bombers, only to have the wife come and close the den door to lessen the sound of my shouting.  For me a couple minutes or hours later I'm over it.  I have other things that occupy my mind.  I work with a guy that really seems to struggle with things, not sports related, and I've had to talk him off the ledge a few times.  Everyone deals differently with mental illness but please please never think you have to deal with it alone.  There are resources everywhere to help https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/mental-health-services/mental-health-get-help.html. 
 
Just pick up a phone and call.  Hell even email me if you need to vent.
 

Much respect to all the people putting their mental health issues out there. I myself struggle with anxiety/depression every day. It’s an important dialogue to leave open, especially among the male population.
Last year when the Bombers beat the Riders in the WF, I was quite sad, and felt numb. I did question to myself why I was letting the outcome of a game I had no control over upset me so much, but as others have echoed here, our teams really do become a part of our identity.
If anyone, and I mean this, ever needs a place to vent about mental health, anything like that, please DM me. I work with a mental health support group specifically for men, and would be happy to help. 

Thanks and no need to apologize. I knew what forum I was posting in.

Thanks for the article @Zach Schnitzer... good read and I identified with a lot going on there.
This one definitely hurt more... because it wasn't juts a loss, or even just a championship loss... it was a loss on what would've been an historic win.... and all compiled by the fact that despite playing a below average, the Bombers had the ball in their hands and a very good chance to take home the win... this version of the Bomber gets it done in those situations... so, to see it not happen... just hit so much harder.... I keep telling people "I honestly wish I could care less"... but I know I can't
I consider myself fortunate I don't struggle with mental health the way some do... but I also didn't couldn't sleep much Sunday night... and while this loss isn't hurting me too much 4 days later... I still can't help but replay that final drive in my head over and over and wonder where it went wrong  

The reality is that we become involved with sports teams as an escape and become emotionally invested in them -some of us obsessively so. When our personal lives become emmeshed with our teams or individuals, we enter a grey, potentially unbalanced state of mind. We follow our heroes for the drama- the soaring highs, the crashing lows and yes, the tensions. Our sports and even political attachments are often analogues for our lives and that is all well and good so long as we do not cross the line from entertainment into obsession. The sense of continuity and community that sports can offer can carry us through rough times and have value as long as we do not let the "us vs them" attitude does not become pathological.

I get it, Bros.
Take your time with it and by the time we're approaching free agency and drafts and having a few juicy comings & goings stories in the off season, your thirst for the new challenge of 2023 will pull you onward. It's the love that will bring you back. Winning is great, winning Championships is epic but it is the love of your team and of our game that makes me utterly doubtless that the prospect of a new season of the CFL and Bomberball will embolden you all, once more to risk your feelings by investing a not insignificant part of yourself in the fortunes of your team.
You are the Bombers. That's why it can hurt so bad.
I say this as someone who routinely is met with puzzlement, laughter, indifference and sometimes hostility because I am an Argonaut and I could never be anything else.
 
Lots of food for thought in this thread. Thanks everyone. Particularly the part which @wbbfan added about the ways that we identify ourselves and partition aspects of our psyches into 1,2,3 or more parcels really gave me a "pause and consider" moment.
 

Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting! I would agree with a lot of this. I guess for me, and for many Bombers fans, while it’s a distraction, it’s also a meaningful community. We feel connected to the players, coaches and staff who are mourning big time. The Bombers make us very much part of the team and regarding civic duty, the club does so much in the community. Anyway not discounting your post. It’s super interesting and helpful. 

That's a fine line to walk - the more you know, the more realize realize how corrupt and terrible the world is and how little power we have to do anything to do about it. I've never been more mentally fragile than I was during covid and 90% of my time was spent reading the news and people commenting about virus this, masking that.
My wife and I talk about staying in our bubble. Be good people, raise our children to be good people. Hope to leave more positive impacts than we do negative. 

To be honest guys, this year stings but it doesn’t even come close to 2001 or 07. 

2019 was very special, in that I got to see a cup win with my Dad. 
My Grandfather was one of the biggest Bomber fans. He and my Dad had a tough relationship at times but they always bonded over the Bombers. Granddad passed away in 1983, I could always tell it broke my Dads heart that they didn’t see 1984 together.
I saw so many parallels during the drought, can’t describe how badly I wanted to see that 2019 victory with the old man. 
Not to mention seeing a guy I’ve known since nursery school (AH) helping end Winnipeg’s drought..So many special aspects of that win. 
2021 was both the hardest and best year of my life.
We had twins in September of that year, and unfortunately we lost one of my baby girls to heart disease at 3 weeks. After all the grief, and sleepless nights of raising a newborn, our family experiencing another cup win at that particular time..So grateful for that distraction. Seeing my Dad holding his granddaughter while watching the final OT play was another all time life moment. 
I try to keep all this in mind after this past one. Saying “I have perspective” is inaccurate. I’m still busted up over the team losing, but unlike 01 and 07 I’m not dwelling on it all winter. 
Again, thank you guys, especially @Zach Schnitzer and @Noeller Just remember when you’re down, you’re NEVER the only one. I’m sure you all have support in your real lives, but my PMs are always open if anyone here is suffering. 
 

I used to take sports way, way too seriously and then about 25 years ago happened on a video essay by Ian Ross discussing the concept of Bread and Circuses.  I cannot find it unfortunately, but here is a good summary of the concept:
 
The idea that people can be pacified by food and entertainment when they should be rallying to their prescribed civic duties isn't a new one. In fact, the concept was first described in ancient times by the satirical Roman poet Juvenal, who penned the Latin term panem et circenses, which means "bread and circuses."
 
"Two things only the people anxiously desire -- bread and circuses," he wrote, lamenting the failure of citizens to take action as the democratic Roman Republic fell and the heavy-handed Roman Empire began.
Within a mere 100 years, Rome underwent massive governmental changes. What in 133 B.C.E. was a free republic that relied on a voting populace and an assembly system morphed into an embittered autocracy by the first century C.E. [source: Beard].
Thus, Juvenal's term, "bread and circuses" went viral, used by scores of people -- then and now -- to describe people who voluntarily trade their democratic freedoms in exchange for stable-yet-controlling government.
Back then, the Roman government kept the Roman people pacified by offering them free food and rousing entertainment in the Roman Colosseum. Now, "bread and circuses" applies to any civic or governmental entity -- or any situation, really -- in which the masses willingly accept short-term solutions to ease their discontent.
So, essentially sports is and has been used to distract us from what's really important in our lives.  That's not to say that we shouldn't allow ourselves to be distracted, but we have to recognize it for the distraction that it is.  As someone who takes the world far too seriously (and also suffers from depression) I struggle with thirsting to know everything I can about why things are the way they are.  I appreciate the excitement of sport, the beauty of music and great stories (whether they be delivered in a book or by a television show or movie) if only to remember what it's like to feel something.  That being said, those feelings are fleeting - perhaps by necessity - because I still try to care about the truly important things we all can get distracted from.
 
 

This loss is miniscule for me personally compared to 07, which I try not to even think about.  That one hit different.
I was lucky enough to be there in person to see the Bombers win last year in Hamilton. My heart goes out to all that travelled to Regina this year, and especially those who are struggling.
Just a note, I saw the 58-62 run mentioned in another thread, in 1960, the year we didn't win --we didn't even make it to the Cup, we had a 14-2 regular season record, the best in franchise history until this year. We're right on schedule for another back to back.

Thanks for sharing @NoellerI was in the hospital this summer. For the second time in my life. Saved my life and now on the right meds and path. Glad we’re talking about this stuff.