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That’s soo odd right after the team and Kelly denied any wrong doing. You know that’s why they marched good ole pinball out to deliver the message. 
 
This only pushes home that the league needs to come down swiftly and harshly on the Argo’s brass. 

Yea...I mean Bluto did victim blame but I think it was more he hoped and prayed the victim was lying, and it came out all wrong. We now know for certain based on Pinball's comments that Kelly ain't a victim of a smear campaign. I am sure Bluto will do the right thing now.

I’m more excited for camp pre season and the regular season than I was the last two years, just because of the optimism about this. I think the mafia has learned how far loyalty should extend and when to cut it off. 
 The raptors just rode championship loyalty into the toilet. We haven’t adapted as fast as the stamps did, but I think we got there. 

I think it’s all made grey by the fact that the last two gc losses were soo close that any single change of an under performing factor likely turns a loss into a win. If biggie played at a peak modp level for instance I think we win. But I don’t particularly blame biggie for the losses. 

Yeah last two years camp and pre season seemed like a foregone conclusion before they even started. I expect a real battle this year. Probably a few fisticuffs. 

yup...this yr has a different feel to it....last yr camp was a joke...and pointless in all honesty

Here's Pinball's 15 minute post practice press conference:
 

yup...basically...BUSTED!! now time to about face and clean the mess

That’s soo odd right after the team and Kelly denied any wrong doing. You know that’s why they marched good ole pinball out to deliver the message. 
 
This only pushes home that the league needs to come down swiftly and harshly on the Argo’s brass. 

I refer to Nats and Amerks on the roster ahead of guys due to loyalties....personal likes.....rewards.....and it played a hand in the last 2 cup losses....Jackson use...and by default hamstringing the dline...Hurt guys playing at expense of healthy ones..Biggie...Bailey..Demski..Schoen....Going for hollow stats and hype (Houston) over Rose...ZC playing in previous Cup when it was clear after 1 quarter he was limited....multiple guys dressed who never stepped over the sideline....let alone needed to even bring their helmet
First eye test this yr looks like maybe we finally learned from past failure, because in all honesty we should be gong after our 5th straight cup win in a row....and what better thing to rag on the dickweeds out west about than to say we have won more cups than them in the last 5 yreas than thay have in total in over 100 yrs...plus we have 12 others in our pocket lol

Cut him some slack, he just lost his franchise MOP QB. He's an Argo fanatic and is clearly in denial. He is extending way too much benefit of the doubt to a player known to have big behavioral problems, but he is also viewing it through the lens of a fan. He will come around once the shock and awe wears off and he realizes this was a fair and just punishment. The CFL could not let it's reigning MOP act like a total creep and embarrass the league with a weak response to it.

so....after a lengthy independant investigation....subsequant suspension handed down, and now Pinball saying that the Team does not deny/dispute the allegations in his presser....safe to say Kelly was lying now...the trainer was not, and justified, and as per Pinballs own comments the team itself has lots of work to do, and needs to look within itself to make sure this never occurs again.....so safe to say the he says...she says narrative was debunked?....and its actually 100 percent accurate now

Maybe, but from all accounts the past deals with Grant were pretty team friendly. I can't see him suddenly looking to cash in after the season he had last year.

I think it's likely a little of both.

I really am not sure that Grant was a SMS casualty. I think the Bombers felt that he was in the tub too much.

I thought about that. Maybe the Bombers just wanted to move on from Grant. 
With there being no limits to this promo money they could have easely found extra money for him.
Did the Bombers actually lose any players that they wanted to re-sign? 
They knew they had to start turning over some of the roster. Need to develop the next group of starters. 
 
 

it did....and best post of the month hahaaha

If history has taught us anything, it is that Kelly learns from his past indiscretions. (I hope the dripping sarcasm came through..)

It can actually. Jackson is a perfect example of a bad rookie. Most old boys clubs let the wrong young guys in for the wrong reasons. 
 That said I don’t remotely see a comparable volume of complaints about young guys as old guys. 
 The core of the issue has been rostering and starting guys who wouldn’t make any other roster in the league. Be they old, jack thomas and kola or young like Sheahan and schmekel. 
 Rostering DIs only to not use them at all goes way back to the pre 19 years under the Mafia. As does starting guys no one else would look at. Though our talent level at times back then left us wanting for better options. 

Yea..there's gotta be some kind of formula you would think.

In court? 

It can actually. Jackson is a perfect example of a bad rookie. Most old boys clubs let the wrong young guys in for the wrong reasons. 
 That said I don’t remotely see a comparable volume of complaints about young guys as old guys. 
 The core of the issue has been rostering and starting guys who wouldn’t make any other roster in the league. Be they old, jack thomas and kola or young like Sheahan and schmekel. 
 Rostering DIs only to not use them at all goes way back to the pre 19 years under the Mafia. As does starting guys no one else would look at. Though our talent level at times back then left us wanting for better options. 

It can actually. Jackson is a perfect example of a bad rookie. Most old boys clubs let the wrong young guys in for the wrong reasons. 
 That said I don’t remotely see a comparable volume of complaints about young guys as old guys. 
 The core of the issue has been rostering and starting guys who wouldn’t make any other roster in the league. Be they old, jack thomas and kola or young like Sheahan and schmekel. 
 Rostering DIs only to not use them at all goes way back to the pre 19 years under the Mafia. As does starting guys no one else would look at. Though our talent level at times back then left us wanting for better options. 

I think the other canary in the mine type players are schmekel (barring a big step forward as a player) Thomas (starting/number of reps) Cole and Kelly (both should easily be on the game day roster) and to a lesser extent kola vs Eli. 
 I think they feel pot committed to keeping Bennett around still, but we did cut faith quickly in the past. And I think it’s similar with Sheahan I think they want to see how he will do in a better kick cover/punt system. Atleast I sure hope so. 

Cole is a guy to me that if he improves in the slightest from last year we just need on the field. I think you could play him at either lber spot, or Sam or S. personally I’d take advantage of that and move him around and use that versatility to get other guys on the field for packages. And also to limit the reps of Kyrie/biggie keeping them healthier hopefully. He’s strong, fast, physical, got all the motor and drive in the world and strong anticipation skills. He’s got modp upside, and reasonable ability to fulfill that potential with reps and coaching. 
 
Kramdi I think has upside and use situationally. He puts him self in position, but is hit or miss when it comes to actually making plays. Short yardage/goal line, clear running downs I think he’s an asset. And he is more useful in coverage than the limited Halletts Imo. But he shouldn’t start Sam or other wise.