trueBlue83

Probably more hits. 

there's a first for everything!  

"Dual threat QB dot com"   shut up Rod.   Why do we get this guy every friggin road game!?

I don't want to see that stupid chain on the Rider bench come out at all today!

Win and I visit relatives in Saskatchewan before Xmas..... lose and I will see them next summer.

you just have to spend every free moment of your day reading threads here like the rest of us. 

It would be interesting to see. Yeah in a certain camp of fans only wins count, even if they arent produced at all by qbing. We still enjoy the best average starting field position in the league, but it has declined a good bit recently. Whats an even bigger deal is missing harris, then going away from running with him last game. Plus the kids gloves playbook streveler was playing with up until we fell deep behind against hammy. 
For streveler to be effective we have to maintain the runs with harris, and let him stretch the field deep. Let more of his runs come from when the defense is deep down field covering wrs and he has room to do some damage with his legs. Less QB draws up the gut. 

and if you look at my previous point, it was mentioned that Defence & Special teams contributed largely to our winning record early on.  So.... it's not as simple as Wins & Losses and QB efficiency rating!  Gotta look at the overall body of work!  And to me, Nichols only really had a couple of good games this season.  For the most part, it was was relatively mediocre performances.

Don't you feel that this is a bit of a negotiating tactic?  He's got no deal for 2020, and it doesn't sound like the club wanted to work out an extension pre-season.  Of course he's going to try and highlight the good he did this season.  But we all went through this last week looking at the opponents.  Nichols great record this season was largely against struggling teams.  To say he was having a career year, when he only played 3 teams that had a winning record, you have to look at this from both sides.  His best game of the year was against Calgary, so give him that... but he also couldn't move the ball at all against Toronto and contributed greatly to that meltdown loss 2 months ago.  I'd be fine with him coming back next season, but not as the defacto starter, and certainly not at Elite level starter's money.
Upon further review... he actually only had a W against 2 teams with a winning record.  Calgary & Edmonton.

Because he was throwing far less passes a game. Its the same way rider fans used to argue that kenton keith was better then charles roberts with a YPC of 7 vs blinks 5+ in 2.5x more touches. 

and if you look at my previous point, it was mentioned that Defence & Special teams contributed largely to our winning record early on.  So.... it's not as simple as Wins & Losses and QB efficiency rating!  Gotta look at the overall body of work!  And to me, Nichols only really had a couple of good games this season.  For the most part, it was was relatively mediocre performances.

Because he's a good character guy, and he says he had his best season ever!    This is going to be all about dollars at this point.  If he really wants to be back with the club, he's got to be looking at taking a team friendly deal, not swinging for a home run pay day!

argument could be made that Harris saved Nichols career.... Harris careered in 2017 with his yards from scrimmage and 105 receptions.  All those short passes propped up the completion percentage and QB rating, and he's been nowhere near that level since this time 3 years ago.  He had a couple good games this year, but to say he was having a career season?? That also says a lot... mediocrity is okay I guess!

argument could be made that Harris saved Nichols career.... Harris careered in 2017 with his yards from scrimmage and 105 receptions.  All those short passes propped up the completion percentage and QB rating, and he's been nowhere near that level since this time 3 years ago.  He had a couple good games this year, but to say he was having a career season?? That also says a lot... mediocrity is okay I guess!

Average yards?  We're talking QB rating which has little to do with yards.  QBR would be inflated for a QB who does not go downfield very much because he will have fewer incompletions, which does factor in.

Gotta wonder what the narrative would have been if 5(!) of the 7 wins that Nichols started weren’t against BC, Toronto or Ottawa. But yes, all QB wins can be judged in a vacuum. Put Streveler in those games and throw in the second Toronto game too and the Bombers don’t win at least five, probably all six of those games?

argument could be made that Harris saved Nichols career.... Harris careered in 2017 with his yards from scrimmage and 105 receptions.  All those short passes propped up the completion percentage and QB rating, and he's been nowhere near that level since this time 3 years ago.  He had a couple good games this year, but to say he was having a career season?? That also says a lot... mediocrity is okay I guess!

argument could be made that Harris saved Nichols career.... Harris careered in 2017 with his yards from scrimmage and 105 receptions.  All those short passes propped up the completion percentage and QB rating, and he's been nowhere near that level since this time 3 years ago.  He had a couple good games this year, but to say he was having a career season?? That also says a lot... mediocrity is okay I guess!

O'Shea saved Nichols career.  So did Richie Hall.  Our W-L since 2016 is nowhere near what it is without a defense that turns the ball over at a record rate from 2016-18.

does he have any insight into what's going on inside Richie Hall's head, or just how bad Nichols injury was?
unrelated, but somewhat on topic.... on the coach's show tonight, O'Shea responding to a caller who was disappointed how the football club has done nothing to bring in a marquee QB over the past couple decades basically just had an on air love fest over Nichols, stating how good he is, how good his record is and how he'll never back down from that opinion "well after I'm gone".   Wasn't sure what to make of that statement.  Tells me that there's no way Nichols won't be back next season if he's still around (which isn't his call), but the "after I'm gone" comment is interesting.   Conspiracy theorist can ponder, but maybe O'Shea is headed to Toronto, and Nichols won't be far behind!?  If in his mind, he's already checked out and headed back to Southern Ontario, that could explain the complacency lately!

I'd love to see Khari take over, but I can see him extended in Montreal the way he's righted that ship!  Really seems to love his squad too, so even with the history with the Bombers, don't see him jumping ship.

I'd love to see Khari take over, but I can see him extended in Montreal the way he's righted that ship!  Really seems to love his squad too, so even with the history with the Bombers, don't see him jumping ship.

I'd love to see Khari take over, but I can see him extended in Montreal the way he's righted that ship!  Really seems to love his squad too, so even with the history with the Bombers, don't see him jumping ship.

Honestly bringing back a 33 year old Nichols after two seasons where his play dropped and coming off surgery to his throwing shoulder seems likely a recipe for another frustrating year.

Do some of you guys still want us to go after franklin?