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HO HUM slacking attitude that things will just work out and guys will sign.....thats not an isolated incident either

So what that is, is Walters heard the ask from their camp and moved on. Simple as that. If walters decides a guy is going to get too much money he seems to just go on to the next. Players of course get all butthurt because they figure everyone should be kissing their feet.

I think part of the problem is Walter's approach to things. We've heard from multiple players that they heard nothing or next to nothing from Walters when it came to a new deal. Recently, Tyrell Ford said that their negotiations were pretty slow and Walters didn't come with an acceptable offer until it was too late. FTR, I'm fine with Ford moving on but it makes me wonder how many other players we may have lost in a similar fashion?

Yeah I don't like thinking about it...I don't get the Mitchell situation.

The west is really confusing this year. Each team has looked good and bad. Though to be fair to cgy, their bad game came with absolute crap weather. Buuut that doesn't bode well for later in the year either.

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Thank christ as likely 5-8 of them be forced ones resulting in picks I bet we see a lot of forced stuff this weekend...especially if our group is Sterns....Case...Hobbling Demski...Clercius and Wheatfall....thats a sad ack group really....kinda sad to loook at

As the in-house sarcasm expert that I am, I'm thinking you missed one here. 🙂

He got a chance last year and in both pre seasons. Hasn’t done any thing as a wr or kr. But luckily you don’t have to produce to keep a spot here. honestly to soon to tell. We don’t know who is really good until teams face real adversity in season. half the league has been decimated by qb injuries so far this year. But luckily most don’t seem like long term injuries.

the stubbornness tho has resulted in 3 straight avoidable losses...that cant be ignored and the fact he STILL refuses to alter hios ways cant be either....thats my gripe I agree he has more good qualities than bad....but the bad ones are fatal ones....and that has to change. That being said he is not the be all end all and if we were to move on...or he was to choose to move on...we'd be just fine....and could be even better too...who knows....But I doubt we would find another guy who refuses to use the rules allowed cause he doesn't like them....or refuse to play his best players too.... We have a good team....yeah...not great...and looks to be one of the weaker ones in the last 5 yrs tho, as other teams have clearly got better....so right now until I see a few more games and maybe a bit of a shift in what we do....I not super convinced we will be challenging for anything yet

To keep this theme going, the only reason our team has enjoyed great success over the last 5 years is REFS!

Now list how many hcs lost 3 gcs in a row and kept their job.

Apparently for a few around here this ongoing concern about our DL is just a bunch of Jake hate. Bonus observation: Any concern about our roster management is just a guise to slag MOS. Go Bombers. 🙂

Great...he has flaws...ALL coaches do. All coaches tend to be stubborn as well especially when their stubborness results in 5 straight Grey Cup appearances. If you are arguing that MOS has flaws you have no argument, if you are arguing he is not a very good HC then the facts and lists you speak of are completely applicable because they demonstrate elite success levels. Suggesting lists and facts as "cherry picking" is like you pointing to roster management on a daily basis as somehow negating all the excellent work he does as a HC to make this team a top contender year in and year out. That, too, is cherry picking your argument. Their is a heck of a lot more positive then negative to discuss, but we don't hear it much around here. We have another team this year that looks like it will challenge for a Grey Cup. Anyone thinking that should be automatic and without adversity is dreaming in technicolor. We will have highs and lows all season long that hopefully will culminate in another Grey Cup. This team steamrolled through it's first 3 games, got humbled in one. This is not some kind of disaster. We are still a top tier team capable of winning it all.

We are a really good team, we are still one of the best in the league, yes we have a couple guys long in the tooth, and yes rookies don't get on our roster as quick as some other teams, and yes for some unknown to us reason we don't dress a real back-up DE.......and we definitely discuss these concerns, as this forum is for, but with so much negativity in the mainstream news, fires in our backyard and the crap going on in other parts of the world etc. I like to try and focus on the positives where I can. -A win has us tied for first, far better than last year's start..... -The teams finances are the envy of the league... -We are facing down our 8th sellout.... -We have improved beer choices at the game..... -When we go to Sask. we get to leave after..... Go Blue, we will be rested and have solid film to work off, let's get back in W column!

heres a list of ones who lost 3 straight for totally avoidable reasons Osh People can make all kinds of lists they want...and cherry puck stats/facts.....but he has flaws as all do....and stubbornly wont change them and they have cost us dearly....and not just a one time blip....its ongoing....

Here is a list of other Western Division head coaches who participated in the Grey Cup game since 2019:

Mitchell has proven he can play and make a difference.....Case has not....and is not the type of receiver we need either Part of our narrative here as well is that guys are able and supposed to play in different positions...so if he is unable to...which is B.S then why is he here? he totally deserves the bashing he gets in several areas...denying it just makes you an Oshea sycophant

You mean like the fact that between 1/4 and 1/3 of all his cfl snaps have been at slot? How many snaps at slot do you think Kase has taken that are more productive than Mitchell at slot?

While we're making things up. I think the rise in pre-game beer and hotdog prices points to the financial struggles this team is facing.

Ssshhh....don't let facts get in the way of a good old O'Shea bashing that's going on here.

Just win for Milt, Chase and family.

Name one player who left for the same money we offered. Arguments could be made that some players may be frustrated with usage but you are creating fiction to try and back it up. This team does NOT have unhappiness and poor morale nor have I heard of any players leaving due to that or us missing out on FAs for any other reason than cold hard cash. Name one player that has left here and has stated anything negative about their time here. ONE. I'm waiting.

I'm getting 2015 flashbacks with this receiving group.

I think the number of free agents (especially players who finished their first contracts) that leave here & the lack of impact free agent signings from other teams the previous few season tells a story of the real unhappiness & morale on the team, in general. Players are now leaving even if they're offered the money they want to stay. Gone are the days when we could reup as many veterans as we want.