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He looked the best this year running BUT... the other aspects you describe, I agree with. If Strevler was the long bterm starter we'd have won just a couple of games. Osh is gonna tell us Tuesday that he's proud of his performance & if Zach can't play hen he'll start again. And as far as Ottawa goes, for God's sake, fire Bob Dyce.

Biggest issue low key, how many times did the pocket start to close like I’m talking very slightly and he stopped going through his progressions. If his first or second read aren’t there he isn’t keeping his eyes downfield the field and that’s a problem.

I admire your commitment to the bit…

An enormous problem was Strev would check down, maybe to a second option at best, completely panic, and then just run aimlessly into the offensive line and get one or two yards. He's obviously not confident.

Obviously the o-line and the play calling this season could be better but Streveler cant f**king pass. Thats the biggest problem. I mean its not that he cant hit the deep ball, or wide side, etc. He cant throw a f**king 10 yard pass properly for christs sake. Its time to throw in the towel and just admit the guy is/was a gimmick QB all along, that got hot in 2019, and now his gimmick(running) is mostly gone which makes him basically useless.

Looks like Wheatfall is done for awhile.

Yeah, honestly, I'm not sure where I sit on this. I do think Streveler is terrible, but you bring up some interesting points. And, frankly, the answer may simply be that the offense sucks, and Streveler sucks. And, frankly, Zach is well past his prime, too. It's a real **** stew. A lot of shitty ingredients.

Lapo also said Strevy needed to grow a pair and stay in the pocket longer (needs to hold his water a bit longer was the phrase he used) to go through his reads or let the play develop instead of automatically tucking the ball and trying to run.

That was the absolute worst display of qb'ng I have ever seen. I actually just watched a qb worse than Jason Boltus. Yeah, we won. I guess I should be impressed. I'm not. It's damned embarrassing.

Yeah but first pass of the game was on target, receiver dropped it. He had a nice shot to demski downfield but it wasn't a catch because the db tripped demski... Wilson could have made another catch. Wheatfall getting KOed i addressed earlier. That was not a qb problem there. There are huge problems with this team, qb isn't the biggest problem.

My post count would be significantly less without sarcasm! 😂

Damning with faint praise.

Hogan needs to go no questions about it. But even in our darkest days when Mike Kelly attempted to run his outdated bizarre scheme.... those qbs still managed to make more then 3 completions. It is time to clean house and make big changes.

He's barely allowed to pass and the offense is **** with collaros too.... is collaros better passer? Sure but the same problems exist with both guys and I honestly believe on the list of problems with the offense qb is the last one. Scheme and play calling suck, OL sucks, receivers are mid at best. What's a qb supposed to do?

Lol, i get that youre a Streveler apologist but common man. You really believe Streveler would have success running the same offense as Collaros?? Let it go brother. Streveler cant pass. We could have freaking Lombardi calling plays and it wouldnt matter. You cant make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

I fervently hope so.

well when you put it that way...

Yes? Sink or swim and quit this smartest guy in the room crap. Hand off to Brady on first, qb draw on 2nd. Great ******* plan. Let streveler run the same offense Zach gets and see what happens. People seem to forget collaros has big int totals this year too AND has been concussed 3 times because he gets no blocking too. This offense sucks and qb IMO is the last reason it sucks.

That play where Lapo pointed out that Strev had a wide open guy (can't remember who) on the left side and he tucked tail and ran instead of finding him open was telling. Like are we just going to run a wild cat all game, is that it? Why even bother having receivers out there getting open if Strev won't look for them. That TD would have sealed it, though in the end we didn't need it as Ottawa was sucking so hard it didn't matter.

Not sure why everyone is dumping on Hogan after this game. He was tasked to come up with a game plan for a QB that cant pass. Limit the passes and run the ball all day. What else was he supposed to come up with? Let Streveler drop back 30+ times and throw away the game?

I mean yes but it’s cool to have a legit threat to take it back when the other teams kicker shits the bed

We just got lucky that Lewis Ward forgot how to kick FG's today, and Ottawa's special teams forgot how to tackle. I have spoken.

I don't know how they can look at thia game and stick with Hogan calling the offense... Brown threw 2 picks and Ottawa kept letting him throw. Streveler threw one into the shadows (brown had one in the same spot too) and suddenly he looks like he's been told not to throw unless a guy is 20 yards open. Receivers put catchable balls on the turf too... and on the pass wheatfall got clocked on, I blame that on whoever decided Wilson should be there. Dragged a db right into the way to allow that hit to happen. If it was designed for him to be there more shame on Hogan but most likely Wilson was just in the wrong spot.

Hogan sucks. That is all

Speaking of ST’s, forgot in the 3 stars thread, huge props to the cover teams showing up against 2 dangerous returners. I think we’ve got the best kickoff and punt return coverage in the league. Have we given up a big return all year besides the one missed FG at the end of the first Ottawa game?