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VAJ makes 465,000 Harris 453,000 Brown 390,000 BLM 375,000 Zach at 600,000 is being majorly over payed. Kelly makes 615,000 but honestly he's better than Zach when healthy. Rourke makes 624,000 but hey he actually looks like a difference maker QB. Walters screwed us for next year but reupping Zach.

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Make a play for Kelly ?? Are You shittin me right now? And watch the cream puffs on this forum implode? Actually .it be fun ,just for crap0s and giggles.

He is constantly under throwing guys... how's that not cooked? Just because he will occasionally get it there if he puts everything he possibly has into it doesn't mean he still has the arm. Collaros needs to do what he did vsm Hamilton and turn into a game manager. But he's been stubborn about changing his whole career so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

His arms not cooked because we've seen recently that he can do it. It's just a matter of why is the offense so inconsistent (as a whole ..) ?? When poor Matty Ice's arm got fully toasted (after he went to Ottawa!) that was a cooked arm. That poor guy couldn't make a 10 yard toss. That was so many shots to the shoulder and he just didn't have the juice. But Christ we saw ZC do it two weeks ago. It's still there. With tons of zip on the ball.

People were happy as **** with the Hamilton game where he was getting the ball out short and quick.... but that ain't Zach's default

Why not just go on what all 3 say all the time instead of conspiracy theories and it’s all 3 of them game planning all week long along with the other coaches cuz that’s more than likely how it is. I doubt O’Shea is this trump dictator that people make him out to be. They all have input. It’s JYs D. It’s hogans O. It’s millers teams with input from the coach and other coaches. How it should be really

33000 ppl go to games. You are the minority. The 8 of you on here. Christ. The delusion is real. But in regards to Zach, his shoulder has to be cooked. And he is prone to dumb mistakes that get rookies benched. But he always has been. Lapo buck hogan. OC in Toronto and Hamilton. Zach makes dumb plays, like real dumb. Triple coverage. I dunno. He’s a gun slinger. It’s the mentality. Not sure he’s willing to change. Seems when he was throwing the short ones ppl weren’t happy either so it’s almost a no win situation with the O and OC and insert starting QB here.

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And you are in the minority.

It may not be Younger's choice. We don't know how much O'Shea is involved and we have too many steers instead of bulls on our D-line and linebackers.

very un surprising. In general I would take the ball for any thing short of mad weather. But our O in the 3rd is soo bad again this year we might have done better to run or kneel and limit our offensive snaps lol

Every one needs to do better in the coaching staff. Jy has not taken the step forward I had hoped he would after last years brilliant adjustments. That said, with what we are married to on the dl, I don’t think JY could do any thing other than drop every one and hope for the best. We’ve managed to limit tds and red zone better than any one else. but honestly some of that has looked like we’ve been as lucky as good. Now i’ve seen time this year where we have repeatedly failed to get deep enough in the second level and play too far off in the 3rd level. Giving away uncontested first downs on second and long. Being married to tony jones really hurts our pass D. In our scheme we need a guy who can either get deep enough to take away the mid field by first down marker on 2nd and long, or one who can disrupt on a regular basis by pass rushing. And jones is just lost in decision making and seldom deep enough. In the pass rush he’s little more than a guy trying to block a blocker. The Dl is the real heart of the problem as we all know. With two canadians on the field of half the snaps we aren’t gonna disrupt or get pressure. WJ can still make plays, but aside for the precious few games were he turns it on, he’s the worst pass rushing starting de in the league. He’s also one of the worst run stoppers. He needs to be a rotational guy, and even then you gotta keep on him to not coast. Even the rest of Vaughters, woods, lawson and adams don’t have the answers. I like woods, lawson and adams a lot, but neither is the guy who plays the most snaps. Vaughters has been solid mostly, if unspectacular. And is really yet another 3rd guy in an ideal rotation. Imo, DL gives the best value for cap hit in free agency. But it’s also a hit or miss position.

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Interesting stat. I've been a diehard Bomber fan for decades. I'm currently on vacation in the Azores but I made the time to listen to this past weekend's game (5 hr difference from Winnipeg) much to my wife's chagrin. But I tuned out after the third quarter because I was so frustrated with their play including the business of not receiving the ball to start the 2nd half. (I think Doug Brown thought the same.). I'll still be there to the end but I lost faith in O'Shea and his rostering and other mind-numbing decisions when he kept that ex-US Navy Seal, Damien Jackson, on the roster for a whole season. What a waste of a roster spot! End of rant. By the way they make some excellent white wines on Pico Island. Cheers. 😊

Oh there are plenty of tools around this offense.... But the biggest tool Zach is missing is his arm. He has shown an unwillingness to change the way he plays, but he doesn't have the arm anymore to be a bombs away guy.

It's called being a realist. If I were to have to put money down on who wins the Grey Cup... I most certainly would lean towards putting that money on the Riders over the Bombers this season. It's not being a "bad fan" , it's called being a realist. Everyone on here "hopes" the Blue can pull off a miracle and win it this season. It's just that based on what they have shown it's highly unlikely. So people are saying what the 2nd best option would be. For myself I say Hamilton because I'd rather that fan base gets to enjoy a Grey Cup win over listening to Rider fans celebrate and be ultra annoying about winning the cup.

banking on this now lol agree with basically all that. One thing, whats worse Jy and the execution on that 3rd and 2, Or hogan and the draw on the last play of the game down by 5?

Highest paid QB showing up 1 out of every 6 games isn’t a recipe for success

I was at the Ham game on the 27th... That was a big ass shot of Hopium....

I don't think the o-line is fully to blame... on those deep balls he has time. It's the arm and decision making that is really hurting his play. If he's going to make random decisions and just toss "bombs" in hopes of the receiver making a play... I'd much rather we had kept Dolegala because at least he is healthy and has a strong enough arm so that the receiver "can" make a play for the ball. Their is a reason why noodle arm Nichols was doing short passes at the end... he knew his limitations and tried the best with what he could do. Zach is just ... yikes. His arm is not as shot as Nichols was... but it's definitely not strong enough for him to make those bombs. It would have been real nice to have given Wilson some game time this season to see if he has what it takes to play. Next season... try to make a play for Kelly or bring in a guy like MBT as a stop gap until we find a long term solution. Zach at 600+ next season is going to really hurt this team.

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He's a merciful OShea!