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Pitch and catch. Boom.

Expected no Zach, still sucks. No Nichols is concerning.

What would I do if I were the Argos? Cry? Wonder why me?

Just watch the labor day game, 5 dt, 7 defensive plays including a huge pass knockdown, and a forced fumble.

Us....in the desperate area

Problem has been at runningback and a soft defense. Arbuckle has performed extremely well last six games and running back situation looks a lot better and defense is starting to get it together. I dont know if if it is a good idea to mess with that. Crazy as it may seem Argos may be the best team in the east right now. If anything I would put Kelly as a back up to be there only if Arbuckle falters.

To an extent it is. O'Shea has been fielding his chosen ones to the exclusion of the new arrivals who showed some potential and ultimately left. This does not exonerate Walters as he bears ultimate responsibility for overseeing the player attainment and also allowing O'Shea to create a good deal of this mess the team is in.

I can't tell if you are saying that Arbuckle has been average or he will maintaining his current average but looking at the game logs and geez; 6 Straight games of 300 or more yards passing, 14 TDs vs 2 Interceptions. If the Bombers were getting that level of QBing they'd probably be the prairie team sitting on 10 wins.

I don't need to, do you know how to evaluate film, understand front/techs, and run fits? Because it sounds like you watch without understanding how to watch and what's actually happening. Kyrie has had 1 good run-stopping game this year and 11 run stops all year. The D is funneled to Jones, and Kyrie only gets to run gaps if they happen right in front of him and he doesn't get picked up.

Idk, toronto is playing edmonton this week. I would certainly expect Arbuckle to maintain his average-ish performance. I belive the trade dead line is begining of october as well. Which leaves edmonton, montral and BC for games for them.

Rewatch some games, Kyrie is the guy hitting the back as he hits the line of scrimmage, dbs have more tackles mainly means that passes have been completed in their area. I dont get the criticism of our lbs, they are the one area we are strong

Easy choice, arbuckle one more week and see what happens after that.

What do you do if you're the argos? Arbuckle has thrown 6 straight 300+ yard games, and 7 of his last 8. Since week 2 he's had more Tds than Ints. He's averaging 319 yards passing per game. He is 31, and he's healthy as can be. He's also not in the 13 highest paid qbs in the league. Does kelly make them any better at this point? They have heavily under achived but I don't place a lot of that at arbuckles feet. Kelly is also 31, an off the field nightmare, the 2nd highest paid qb at 615k, coming off a major injury and his best year isn't as good as arbuckle this year. Personally, while I'd hate to tie my self to arbuckle as the qb1 prior to this year, I'd trade kelly. Some one will likely be desparate enough to take the bait on him and give up assets. You can still resign arbuckle to a team friendly deal and add an all star player with the salary difference.

It's hyperbole for sure, but it's not out of context misquote at all. No one is advocating full scale, but if you have these glaring issues at certain positions standing pat is not an answer. Like centre, or DT.

Imo, he should go in as a lion. If he was 2 different guys, the lions player and the bomber player, the bomber player doesn't get half the personal accomplishments and doesn't go into the HOF. The lions guy on his own, does go into the hof and wins every thing he got still.

He's said that countless times every year since 18/19.

Yeah osh has definitely said they're all starters.

Go back and listen to.soundbites or read...they are all number 1's...that's why they are here....

I agree with that. However, you can`t go fullscale or you lose continuity and then you have a different reason for losing. This failure that I bolded is by far our biggest problem. We can sit here and talk about tweaking our roster all day long and none of that adds up to more wins for us unless we get better players. Simple as that. There isn`t a roster combination we can field right now that makes us serious contenders.

That is not what you heard. What you heard is the coach saying they are expected to all prepare as if they are all capable to start. Doesn`t mean they are better or even remotely as good as the guy ahead of them. It is nonsense to take something out of context like that. No team has 53 starters on their roster, and neither do we. The guys in our starting 24 are there because of either ratio or they are deemed to be the best chance to win. Some guys are very clearly not good enough to start and that's just fact. If you want to play musical chairs at positions where guys have underperformed then you are taking all continuity away and close losses will turn into blowouts. You are aware of this, you have played the game. I am all in favor of bringing in talent and trying it out, but trotting out known commodities that are not starting and hoping they do better you will be lucky if 10% actually are. It is insane to think that any of our backups if inserted on mass into the lineup will make us a contender. That is dreaming in technicolor. Fact of the matter is that if we have a crappy starting lineup, we also have either crappy or not ready players behind them. I don't think that varies at all from team to team, or sport to sport and is a pretty universal truth in all sports. Sure you might get lightning in a bottle once in a while where a guy comes off the bench out of nowhere and excels but that is the exception to the rule not the rule itself. That being said, just for the sake of opening up some guys eyes about the reality of how they are stinking up the joint we should shake up the lineup a little bit.....but it likely means a downgrade in our chance to win in the short term but long term it might wake a player or two up. It is MOS`s fault that we have no depth, haven`t you heard

nah canadian college qb is not getting the call up after one season here, unless he throws for numbers that would make doug flutie blush. I think we all remember that time late in milts career when he was plastered over the middle and out old twitching on the field. then came two and jumped up but was clearly confused and wobbly. He played in a far worse era for player safety. He isn’t the guy to say some thing for clicks or throw out calls for retirement lightly. I understand what mos is trying to say, but I think all the needed info IS available. you have a qb who turns 39 in a couple weeks, who has been knocked out of games 3 times this year due to high hits, who hasn’t been 100% in about 2.5-3 years, and who has more concussion history than the entire rest of the west division. Not an exaggeration either. In grappling they say “every thing below the eyes is the neck”, in football especially for qbs/concussions every thing from the shoulders up is the head. if you get whacked in the neck, it jostles your brain. smashed with a clean hit in the shoulder pads, rattles the cage. So when you see a qb with concussion history’s head hit 3 times and once bounce off the turf, it’s a concussion issue. After concussions, every injury near the head causes issues. no such thing as close but didn’t cause issues at that point. Post concussion syndrome/ppcs is no joke.

lmao he’s our 2nd lber, the 3rd and 4th man in run fits are both dbs. We don’t have another run stopper. Kyrie is only able to make stops if he’s in blocked and the runner hits his gap. that’s not being a good run stopper. Kyrie has zero ability to disengage from a block, or win a battle. Even against none linemen. There will never be a 4 lber set again, here or else where in the cfl. we don’t even employ a 3 lber look at any point this year. dt just put the biggest jinx on kyrie ever