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We used lots of 4 man fronts at other times too. When you handicap yourself with the geriatric brigade you can't expect pressure. Willie lacks give a damn, Jake still has give.a man but he's toast after about a quarter.

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Funny how we ran a primarily 4 man front that game too. Coincidence I think not.

....Yeah....time to get aggressive in our search for talent ....We seem to dawdle along until most of the talent is spoken for....Let the player(s) 'KNOW' that we are interested in their services now....All the other clubs are in that game

All of this you mention would be seen as being very 'proactive' ......something foreign to this club it seems

Funny how we had a bunch of pressure the game we dressed the all rookie defensive line eh?

yup....time for us to be greasy too....the nice guy facade is overdone and not benefiting us

They were apparently working diligently last year too but nothing got announced until February. MOS had even claimed that they were ahead of the game last year as they had already been preparing for life after Buck when he got interviewed by other teams to be their HC. That being said, there are rumors that suggest a coach turned down our offer to be the OC and they had to go back to the drawing board and that's how we ended up with Hogan. We also interviewed Makysmic but he took the Elks job instead so we could have missed out on 2 of our top choices which would understandably delay things a bit. Hopefully they don't run into those issue again - could be a red flag if we keep missing out on our preferred choices.

I am not impressed at all with Younger after this year either, Didn't like his zero pressure approach at all. The first year QBs couldn't adjust to everyone dropping out into coverage but now they just carve us up. These 3 man fronts just don't work if they are done excessively. Better to disguise it like Richie used to do.

Mitchell is a good one. It wouldn't be hard to come up with a list of guys who you aren't going to bring back, guys like kody should be on that list, announce the release of guys who are expiring and wont be given an offer. Then re tool the staff a bit. Say Hogan isn't back, maybe promote JY to ast hc, figure out if you/hall want to go another year. If he does, maybe promote him to be a QC to the oc as well. For me, I'd drop a bunch of vet names on that list, but you don't even need to go real deep with that. Even have someone talk to a CFL reporter like Hodge and say we intend to be aggressive in free agency.

I would hope tampering has been started already. I know teams are tampering with guys we want to stay and guys we are targeting already, Pretty small community of agents so not tough to do.

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time to tamper and in the back channels and let a number or 2 accidently slip out....lol

Hopefully....and if true yup a good sign.....I'll wait for the actual announcement that we moved on tho before I applaud anything...lol

As @wbbfan, you could say Hogan will not be back and say a guy like Mitchell.

It is completely pointless to even look at pending FA's right now. The vast majority will be re-signed long before FA. Many before Jan.2 so that their signing bonuses go against this year's left over cap space.

Hey, I'd love for all of this to be settled right now too. However, it is crazy to suggest change isn't coming because it hasn't been announced Dec. 1. I completely get what you are saying, and if media reports are any indication, we are working diligently to make change in our coaching staff. For now that is a good sign. On December 1st, we should be optimistic about these reports. If nothing has happened a month from now then yea...let's assume the worst.

That is irrelevant and doesn't change anything for this year. Why did Condell not accept the offer? When will they announce Miller is the OC? These are questions we don't have the answer to because we don't actually know what is going on and it would be pretty unprofessional to discuss any negotiations that might be happening publicly.

they also said were talking to guys last yr too....and how that turn out for us.... that waiting and actually saying it wasnt an urgent thing early on...affected a lot....and cant happen again

I think they could've gained a considerable amount of leeway if they came out and publically announced Hogan won't be back, and released awful players who didn't cut it X, Y, and Z. As it is, we have struggled in free agency when not overpaying, to attract top-tier FAs. Despite our sell-outs, we will not be a hot draw by any means with out making guys the highest paid at their position etc. If we start to drum up hype with changes though, that might change. I don't think we will wait till the last minute for the coaching staff again. I think we are 100% taking our OC from another team, and that will have to happen sooner rather than later.

They've publicly said they are talking to coaches. TO was early to talk to guys too and they're still worse off then us. It's a two way street. They could be talking to 30k potential candidates a day...but none of that matters until they sign on. They could have put an offer out to Condell or Miller. Maybe Condell/Miller said I need time to think about it...there are so many variables when it comes to hiring, not getting it done in under 1 month and having panic attacks over it is a bit much.

is early....but still...teams who wanna make an impact will make moves and not ***** foot around....Ottawa being a good example...they were in lala land and realized they need to change...and got er done as fast as you could...Thats how you get the best of the best No rule or law saying you need to wait X amount of time....and not unprofessional either to cut guys loose as early as u can.....and creep other teams coaching talent...snooze...u lose...we been snoozing on many fronts and losing as well....we didnt do that 2018-2021....Got fat and sassy...almost arrogant and just figured people would glom over to us....give us discounts....didnt need to be urgent in negotiations...and look where it got us Part of this new "change" and having to be "better" also is really relevant to how we operate....That needs to change more than anything...loyalty only gets you so far...for so long and clinging to it....always leads to your demise....its pro sports...cut throat and unforgiving business....it's what you signed up for and if you have a fragile ego or get butt hurt for being called out...or sent packing....u in the wrong business

he should have a sense of urgency and be proactive with full court push....or be relagated to settling from withim...again...or looking at the scraps....Hopefully he learned his lesson I truly think JJ was the guy...but whatever circumstance delayed his arrival made them in meantime bump up OC guy...and when he got here would take over the role....but Osh re-nagged on that...and we saw the discombobulation all yr...unhappy players...confusion....and JJ himself looking a bit irritated and put off a bit most the yr

Hutchings would be the dream get...I'd back up a truckload of cash for him....make Cgy anti up to keep him...and if they dont...major win for us

yeah...prior to that for a good while we were a joke...but we have a solid foundation and way we operate now...so would take a supreme blunder and hires of epic lunacy to destroy that now