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coaching....mistake free coaching....or at least competent That would fix a lot We also have been basically out coached in last 3 Grey Cups too...be it in game decisions...schemes...adjustments...inferior roster...penchant to play injured guys....this isnt a thing that came out of nowhere this yr...its been simmering and sauteing for yrs

A LOT less mistakes. You are right, doesn't have to be mistake free but we are committing turnovers and taking penalties like the 2022 RoughRiders. The issues they have are in a big part because of a lack of talent.

exactly...a 100 percent healthy..or close to Strev next yr....ZC if back, and Wilson...as well as hopefully Elgersma after an off-season of actually grabbing a legit FA receiver and Oline guy, and or trading for some, a real OC nad a pro level coaching is deserved to them, and then judge....and if that all stink then...well...we screwed for that yr and time to clean house in the QB department

Vaval right now...sucks as a corner....he isnt reacting or aware....he too busy thinking still...he's a hinderance right now.... well you can pull Vanterpool for one....And if you replace Mitchel with Echols theres a returner...Also Cobb for one of Jake or Korn...There's another option at returner.... Bailey can come on for any Canadian....Ball...Thomas...etc Or...Give Castillo all 3 kicking duties and swap the punter with Baily...Punter guys presence on our roster isnt gonna win us any games and be key.... Woodbey has usurped what visions they had for Ayers....so drop Ayers as well for a game or 2 and get Woods/Adams on.... Lotsa ways we could fix some things with minor roster config, but Osh is too much a stubborn dipshit to do it....Cant make us worse...BUT could make us better Parker and Houston for Lawson Jr and Vaval would make a world of differnce as well

This right here… we’re basically arguing and hoping someone will figure out how to make chicken salad out of this chicken sh!t offence…

Didn't need mistake free football.... need to make less mistakes and stop continually making them... like last game if Sergio makes his fgs or collaros doesn't give away free points trying to force passes downfield bombers.could have won. This team is just not taking the issues they have seriously enough at this point.

Given that our OL is ****, our receivers are ****, our OC is ****... i just don't get piling on the backup qb... not like collaros looks any good either. Problems with this offense go far beyond qb.

it's not anymore....it's currently....he has less recovery than even Schoen had and before retearing his ACL again he had zero burst...minimal ability to separate...or create separation after the catch...It's rare at best for any player save for a lineman to come back first yr post op to show they have regained it all...doesnt happen...Yr 2 tho yes.....they should be back, and if not 90% That's where you need to judge Strev with his running ability. Also any (all) QB's here need and deserve the chance in 2026 camp to show what they can do with legit offensive weapons and an actual pro playbook...or pro coordinator...starting all new will be worse than this yr Right now as mentioned yeah he looks uncomfortable...and very rushed.....and I sure its a combination of what's mentioned...and also how he wired...he very high energy...he needs to slow his process down, a bit as well and then things will develop a bit more on field...and also with him...coaching can fix that but I profess over and over our coaching is killing us...and not just at Q.B If he look same as he does this yr, next yr...well then yeah you cut bait, but judging it now is really not truly indicative...Our offence as a whole all yr has been a clusterfuck...even ZC more times than not looked like a first yr starter Barring a trade...we kinda relegated to what we have in house...and possibly Elgersma...Is ZC gonna play again this yr...let alone next?...no clue...But whoever wins the starting job next yr....you cant roll into the yr with no experienced, let alone capable QB as your number 2 Love Schoen and Strev but we banked on both coming off not even a yr removed from major surgery as guys we were gonna lean on and ignored any other possible/option...and we paying for it Same can be said for dline...Look at the guys who were available in FA...guys who were available via trade (Flo) and we just stood pat cause we figured 2025 would manifest like 2019-2021 and that in itself was wishfull thinking as some those guys were already at their apex and only direction they had was down We grossly mismanaged and misjudged our roster, and looked backward and not forward...had no succession anywhere other than BO in place....and look at us now...teetering on a possible tear down and rebuild We should never have been in this spot yet here we are....and we could really be a lot better than we are, but our coaching isnt where it should be, and we too stubborn to make changes Before I forget...Wilson has the best arm of all our QB's and the best overall skill set...he needs polish and experience.....and well we know here getting the polish and experience is a big ask

Yep wherein lies the problem. In his first stint he was seen as an almost glorified running back. He goes to the NFL and it becomes, well he must not be that bad of a passer if he is getting looks in the NFL. And now he's back, and he's just as bad (or worse) as a passer and he can't run. But I guess now its because the team is O-Line is shitty and not that he isn't a great QB?

He can’t run the ball like that anymore. He’s getting run down by de’s when he’s outside the pocket.

I can see Houston replacing Vaval at CB but wonder if he stays on the AR to do return duty? If he stays on then who gets taken off to meet the ratio? Are we ever going to get Bailey onto the AR? IMO Mitchell needs to be replaced. Even starting Corcoran in his place seems a better option and gives us a ratio benefit. I'd like to see what Echols could do as a replacement but O'Shea seems reluctant? I've gone so far to suggest Mitchell should be released outright. What the heck is the status for Sterns and Parker. Both on 1 game IR but not practising yet? Any chance they might be ready this week? Obviously Sterns might be next up at receiver if he can play. I don't understand why some players sit on the 1 game IR ( Parker ) when they've shown no signs they could practice. If that's the case then why didn't they get put on 6 game IR? Is this some sort of illusion on confusing opponents?

His stats are pretty similar to what he had in 2019... Accuracy the same at 66.7, Efficiency close at 72.4 now vs 72 in 2019, INT rate worse this year at 7.6% compared to 6 then... both numbers absolutely horrible but I digress, but he has absolutely refused to run the ball compared to then... 726 Yards rushing in 2019... even 272 yards through 13 games last year compared to 106 this year through 12.

Yup no matter the situation always repping our colors wherever I go. 🙂

Wheels post-career begins in NY. https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-announce-updates-to-hockey-operations-department

From my layperson's eyes, Strev looks uncomfortable when he drops back and goes thru his reads, is it confidence, pass protection, injury all the above?

CFL buckets the stats into 0-9, 10-19, 20+. That is measured from the LOS to the Reception point, not where the QB throws it from. Streveler is 9/17 for 5 TDS and 2 INTs through Week 14 But those 9 completions have gone for 198 yards so almost all of them at right around 20, or going into the end zone which is a fun stat.

2019 team vs this one is definitely not a good comparison. I agree. The 2019 team could play bully ball and this year we are getting pushed around.

We don't have the talent. Mistake free football is a pipe dream. Championship teams have the horses to overcome their mistakes.

If only all the problems we are having now were easily identifiable before our wet fart of an offseason. Oh well. Sneak into the playoffs with two injured QBs, make a late season trade for QB on a team missing the playoffs, go on a run, profit? I would say its 2019 all over again, but Collaros arrived to a team on the cusp. If we picked up a QB they would show up to a team on the can.

get in the playoffs and anything can happen, but even that is looking really tough to do.

The only qualified passer with a better accuracy than he has is Adams. Other than that the only QB who has worse accuracy with more attempts than him is MBT. 70% of Strevelers attempts are also coming within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Adams for example is at 48% of his passes from 0-9 yards past the line of scrimmage. Adams almost has as many passes between 10-19 as Streveler has total (91 to 105). Hell, Bo has 76 attempts more than 20 yards down field... so yeah Streveler for sure should have better accuracy than those guys.

I'm sensing the cliche's will be coming out in full force this week i.e., doing some soul searching, looking for answers, I believe in this team, this lockerroom, need to take a good hard look in the mirror, we need to play better etc etc We're 6 and 6, the season is obviously not lost yet, we're not firing anyone at this stage probably not even sitting any starter but status quo keep the course is I think being legitimately challenged at this point.

Might have to cut the grass. We'll see. If I am the Ticats I am running him straight at Vaval, who seems to have his head surgically fused into the forward looking position.

To continue to pile on Streveler The Bombers are 7th in the league is TD drive percentage at 16.8%. Montreal is last at 11.6% Streveler was 4/16 Week 2. 0/1 Week 5. 1/8 Week 7. 1/7 Week 8. 1/13 in week 9. 0/4 in week 14. So overall that is 7/49 so... something like 14%... the only offense worse than the Bombers with Streveler at the helm is Montreal and their pu pu platter of QBs they've trotted out this year The Bombers are SIGNIFICANTLY better with Collaros at the helm. Whether that is a change in playcalling to better fit Streveler, or because of his knee, or Collaros is just that much better is up to debate. Sure he is 2-0, but getting those wins against a BC team at home coming off a bye when Rourke is known to have the yips against the Bombers, and then against Toronto when Special Teams and the Defense were playing out of their minds (Jefferson had the highest rated PFF game ever if you are into that metric) is a tad misleading.

Yeah, I love Strev for everything he has given us, but he isn't the present or the future. The picks he has thrown in the games he has played were arguably worse than even the ones Zach has thrown. He can't run anymore. He can't seem to read a defence. I think for next year we have two options, neither a guarantee: - Elgersma comes up north and goes full Rourke season 1 - Get lucky with a B-tier free agent, similar to Fajardo with the Elks.