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I think younger is fine, I think the biggest problem on D is the refusal to rejuvenate the DL and linebackers

Mike Miller was a good hire for ST coach. I go back and forth on the JY hire at DC. Hogan was a huge mistake. Some new blood would be nice.

The Bombers don’t have the receivers to run an offense relying on vertical passing game. And they have to really game plan to keep Collaros from his base instinct of just chucking the ball up. Certainly don’t have the receivers for that right now. It’s gotta be quick stuff to guys who are right in their break.

A vibrant organization nurtures talent and effort , even if the said indiviuals do not fit the organizational mould. In dysfunctional organization, individuals who think as the top people do and do not challenge the existing paradigm get promoted. O'Shea seems to have surrounded himself with same-think people who do not challenge him and the organization has stagnated.

True but Brady has also expressed displeasure this season too in regards to play calling.

I think there is a concensus in this forum that Streveler is not going to lead us to the promised land and it is clear that Collaros is not, either. There are too many lacks on this edition for a patch job- from the GM to the players. Tear it down to the foundation and begin building for 2028.

Fool me once.....

One of the biggest reasons Hogan is OC is because or Brady's recommendation...

So Brady is a free agent after the season, I believe. Does he stay if we keep Hogan as OC?

1. Osh - the only things I recognize on this team are some names and the W. Physicality? Nope. Effort? Nope. 2. Coordinators - it’s like they burned the film of the hammy game. Done with em 3. Blue f$cking pants. They are the diapers of the equipment room, as the Bombers frequently sh!t themselves in blue pants. Crappy Honker: WFC for tricking me into having a little hope before the bye week

When u hire from within...for whatever reason with a guy with zero experience...well expecting an adjustment in game is a pipe dream...we've seen it all yr...out classed consistently in second half all yr

I'll say it again...coaching is just killing us...over and over This team shows as poorly prepared save for the odd anomaly here and there The roster is chalk full of poor coaches decisions and when you have in game injury issues rarely are we covered with the glut of ST guys who's only use is on ST and are a detriment if they have to go in...our overall roster is garbage ad we have maybe 2 actual superstar/difference makers We can't adjust to the game flow and repeatedly get out coached in second halfs...but we show/have no urgency to fix anything cause we claim we have all these starter quality guys and they will review the "film" and work it out...well we 16 games in season now..and are teetering into falling into 5th place We let our roster rot to what it is now..a lot of well paid guys who can't cut it...and way too many guys with no business even being on roster...but coach loves em...so we hooped We are definitely a mess and in serious need of a reboot...Sadly...all avoidable if we turned guys on roster over more liberally..paid guys who were top notch...instead of letting walk...and going after FA studs that could have supplanted some of our slugs...who cares how long they been here...if you can upgrade...u upgrade....we mismanaged a legit team of the ages and turned it into almost a joke now Who knows if any of the guys we brought in but cut in lieu of all these long in the tooth coaches faves were better....but its obviously it couldn't been worse...and if anything they were young with possible upside...not old...declining...zero upside...and several who really just sucked anyway and prob wouldn't be rostered anywhere but here...but that's what happens when you look back..4..5 yrs and not forward...and Osh's comment at beginning of season says it all and I flagged it even then "You look at a guys film from years past and see the success, and that's what they bring here" or something to that effect...and thats just crap way to build your roster...and we been seeing it in real time for 3 yrs now. Factor in some bad coaching...and poor in game management...well u get what we've witnessed

Well if they take a knee there's no risk of Brady getting hurt so on the balance it was probably a smarter play.

Woohoo crossover here we come 😠

It's better then taking a knee 😬

All I know is that you don't have to pay a QB a huge contract to throw a ball into quadruple coverage and/or underthrow deep shots by 5 yards.....

Zach was bad yesterday. Walter's should not have extended him.

Streveler doesn't even set his feet properly to throw. The real question is: where is the QB performance / gameplan we saw against Hamilton?

We have the season series, yes. 1-1 against the Elks, but the next time breaker is head to head point differential.

Can you fill me in on this one? Does points for and against mean much here? Based on last nights game and the points for and against did we will the season series against the Elks? Sorry have not stated current on this as I travel out of country a lot!

We called a draw with 1 play left to try and win the game.... what the **** kind of coaching is that? Brady ain't the guy to bust a run that long.

Collaros was ******* ass. All those people lining up shitting all over streveler better be doing the same after that game from collaros. It's not the qbs, it's the ******* clownshoes OC. Only thing more embarrassing is the 3rd and 2 defence and somehow turning a forced fumble with at least 4 ******* guys around it into a touchdown against. Jesus what a dumb team we have.

I'm guessing this team doesn't do fumble drills?

We still have a lot of good players on this team, however, I believe everything starts and stops in the trenches. Our O-Line needs a couple of replacements starting with Center. Remove Hogan as our play caller, plug in Jackson and then perhaps we will get a better idea regarding the QB position. Maybe Collaros has deer in the headlights syndrome right now. The Hamilton game looked more like our team. This game? Back to the way we played all season. As far as receivers go, I like what we have but we need one more big play guy. Will Dalton Schoen be effective next year? He has been injured a lot. On Defense, our linebackers and D-Line are...well...offensive. Our starters in the secondary I could live with. Allen, Nichols, Lawson, Parker, Houston, Holm, Griffin, Bonds...Im ok with this group. Our Linebackers? Woodbey...yes, and maybe Griffin/Kramdi...I also like the Canadian LB'S we have, but for now, I think we need a solid middle linebacker, because I am not sold on Jones at all. I watched him and Wilson get pulled along the ground by Edmontons RB a few times. The D-Line....Where to start...Woods, Person, Adams, Lawson as a Canadian back up...I would keep these guys, but Willie Jefferson, Thomas, Vaughters...either are inconsistent at this point, or past their expiration date. This D-Line needs serious push up the middle, and ends that will contain, or get to the QB. The O-Line needs to give Collaros time to check down on his reads...he doesnt really have it. Nothing ground breaking here. Although I havent touched on the idea of replacing Collaros and Streveller, I would do so for the right 2 QB'S. They would both need to be able to chuck it and protect it.

Wilson's amazing catch might have saved our post-season. Without it, they're up by 12 and they kick a FG on the last play to make it 15.