What should we do with them?

Is signing them to a bad contract worse than not signing either and losing them for nothing?

What term and how much should they be paid?

If we sign only one, which should it be?

If we trade one, what should we be looking to get back?? A LHD??

 

Buff  AAV - 5.2m   Actual salary - 6m

Ladd AAV - 4.4m  Actual salary - 4.5m

 

I'd like to see them both signed but I think Ladd is easier to replace; however, what does trading do or say to your team?

Neither should get more than a 6 year term in my opinion.

I wouldn't go higher than 6.25 for Ladd or 7 for Buff.

Gary Lawless is reporting that Ladds agent has broken off contract talks, can we assume that Chevy gave them a take or leave offer and the agent feels that the Jets are moving on . Good luck trying to get a long term contract at 6 mil.

Someone will over pay... A desperate team will.

If he hits free agency, he'll do very well for himself.

I we be very pleased if/when they re-sign Buff.

With the salary cap probably staying where it is i can't see Ladd getting 5-6 million based on play this year, the only thing that saves him is if he gets traded to a contender and does light it up in the playoffs.

Edited January 26, 201610 yr by bustamente

Ladd will easily get over 5m a year for at least 6 years as an UFA.

I wonder if Tampa could be a good fit for Ladd.  Lightening are a playoff team that needs to deal with Drouin and Stamkos.  ladd is the type of player that could help them out significantly as a playoff contender.

What do you all think a Ladd/Drouin deal looks like?

         

Theres a comparable for Scheif. 

Barkov is 20 years old.

That is a lot of expensive RFA years they bought.

Not that much different then what the Oilers paid RNH.

Bridge Scheif for two years for 4m per year.

56 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I wonder if Tampa could be a good fit for Ladd.  Lightening are a playoff team that needs to deal with Drouin and Stamkos.  ladd is the type of player that could help them out significantly as a playoff contender.

What do you all think a Ladd/Drouin deal looks like?

As a rental I might see it but they are at the limit with the cap and need to do something with Stamkos if they want Ladd long term....

I don't see them as the best trade partners but anything could happen.

9 minutes ago, Ducky said:

As a rental I might see it but they are at the limit with the cap and need to do something with Stamkos if they want Ladd long term....

I don't see them as the best trade partners but anything could happen.

I guess it comes down to what they want to do.  if they keep Stamkos and flip Drouin for some help and try to make a run, then great.  But then they risk losing Stamkos for nothing.  if they trade Stamkos to a contender, they get back picks and prospects and then seem unlikely to make a run.  But perhaps they'd see Ladd as good enough to help them make the playoffs without Stamkos and more likely to sign Ladd.  Hard to say really.

But I;d love to add Drouin to the pieces we already have here.

The price everyone is talking about is too steep if you ask me.

LeBrun said that Ladd would be one of the hottest commodities if he is put on the market and there will be teams lining up for him. He said that for sure Florida would be one of those teams.

 

Matheson and Crouse for Ladd?

All this chitter chatter about the Jets moving away from ladd and onto Buff, yet supposedly neither is available via trade, got me thinking.

Perhaps the Jets feel they have whittled Ladd down to his bare minimum.  And perhaps Ladd conceded some money and/or term given his play and the Free Agent landscape.  Maybe the Jets called his bluff on how much he wants to stay here and got him down considerably.

So they then turn to Buff to see how low they can nickel and dime him.  And then spend February deciding whether to sign those deals for both or choose one and trade the other.  It just seems odd to hear "contract talks broken off" and yet also hear "Player isnt available". 

I would guess that Ladd and Chevy are at a stand stilll because they have drawn their lines in the sand and neither will budge. I would guess money is the reason but what do we know? Chevy will play this to the wire if need be. His past negotiations prove this.

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Edited January 30, 201610 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

Ladd just bought Chevy, a Chevrolet Corvette that is at Barrett Jackson this afternoon.

       

 

Kings don't have a first round pick so they'd have to offer something significant. Dallas being in the same division. Have to be significant also. 1st which will be late... Honka probably and maybe Nichuskin who is rumored to being shopped. 

Edited February 2, 201610 yr by Goalie

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-talk-could-pavelec-be-on-the-move-1.431996

Pavs to Calgary? Say it ain't so Joe!

 

"Winnipeg Jets goaltender Ondrej Pavelec has been out since Nov. 21 with a sprained knee. In his absence, Connor Hellebuyck has done a solid job for the Jets. With Pavelec nearing a return and Hellebuyck likely slated to get a number of starts in the near future, Ken Wiebe of the Winnipeg Sun wonders if the Jets would consider shopping Pavelec before the Trade Deadline. The 29-year-old has a cap hit of $3.9 million this year and next, a lot of cash for a goalie who might be playing backup minutes. Wiebe thinks the Calgary Flames might be viable trade partners as both Jonas Hiller and Karri Ramo are unrestricted free-agents come July 1. The Jets would likely have to take back Hiller (and a draft pick) in a deal, says Wiebe, but would clear $4 million in cap space, possibly aiding the pursuit of signing  Dustin Byfuglien or Andrew Ladd to extensions. "

 

I wonder how high of a pick they could get?

 

Dollars and sense wise, this would pretty much be a wash for the Jets for the rest of the season.  Pavelec makes $4.25M this season and $4.75M next season ($3.9M cap hit).    Hiller makes $4.5M

It would be nice to get Pavelec off the books for next year.     No way Calgary trades their 1st for Pavelec, especially with where they are sitting in the standings.  Could you get a 2nd or 3rd?

Could you then flip Hiller to a playoff team who might need a decent backup, especially if you retain some salary?

I'd be really happy with a 3rd.

Eric Francis from Calgary reported this last week and pretty well said that the Flames were looking for goalie help. I think that the Jets will be shopping Pavs around no way he is here next year as a back up.

It would free up 3.9m of cap space and 4.75m of salary.

Nothing to sneeze at..... but are we comfy with Hutch as the back up goalie?