Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

Ive only heard two Bogo stories from fairly reliable sources.  But Im not sure what we're allowed to post (neither are particularly bad and one is actually good). 

Bogo happily married now so the past is the past.

I heard several stories about Bogo,  I do think we massively upgraded on that deal still. 

I have also heard many many positive stories about Stuart, Thorburn and Ladd.... all of the guys are real good community guys and definitely are fans of this city.

The first story I heard about Ladd was when he was moving in that first pre-season.  He was staying in Toews condo off Pembina HWY.  My friend lived there and her brother saw Ladd back a truck up and start moving some stuff in but he was by himself.  Friend's brother went down and helped him.  Ladd went to his condo later and gave him Jets tickets as a thank you.  Also, Ladd's wife would borrow sugar (and stuff) from my friend's mom.  Condo's were next to each other.  Said the Ladd's were super nice.

Trade him....he can be super nice to his neighbours in Anaheim...

Here's a tidbit - Ladd's boat was stolen this summer in Kelowna (like 50% of the NHL they live here in the off-season).  Not sure if it made the news back in the Peg.

It cant be too easy to steal a boat.  A small boat, sure.  But I assume Ladd has a pretty nice boat.

If we pay him what he wants Ladd will be stealing from the Jets

I wonder how much current play factors in.  For example, lets say in the summer the Jets had offered 6X6 and Ladd asked for 7x6.  They decide to hold off.  Ladd's people probably feeling the closer he gets to Free Agency, the more leverage they have.  But then Ladd has a poor season.  Does his agent still say hey here are his career stats and accomplishes or do the Jets say "wellll. we see a player trending down". 

Does the agent look at this and say gee, last summer you would have had 20 teams offering you more.  But you might not this summer...  is one in the hand worth X in the bush when X is undefined?

34 minutes ago, IC Khari said:

If we pay him what he wants Ladd will be stealing from the Jets

We need to stop worrying about Ladd. His opportunity for a big contract left the launching pad and unlike a SpaceX rocket, it's not coming back.

50 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I wonder how much current play factors in.  For example, lets say in the summer the Jets had offered 6X6 and Ladd asked for 7x6.  They decide to hold off.  Ladd's people probably feeling the closer he gets to Free Agency, the more leverage they have.  But then Ladd has a poor season.  Does his agent still say hey here are his career stats and accomplishes or do the Jets say "wellll. we see a player trending down". 

Does the agent look at this and say gee, last summer you would have had 20 teams offering you more.  But you might not this summer...  is one in the hand worth X in the bush when X is undefined?

Coming off the surgery that he had in the off season if his agent was offered the 6x6 contract and refused he should have fired him because he will not get that kind of an offer from the Jets or probably any other team.

Trade him at the deadline.....Montreal or someone will pay huge for him.

I'm thinking the Jets should offer him a 4X4 contract, and a couple of shotguns thrown in with it if he picks up his play LOL

On 12/21/2015 at 4:43 PM, Goalie said:

Trouba and Copp grew up together,Bogo was Troubas party buddy, hence why bogo was shipped out when nobody expected him to be. 

Copp and Troubas brother now live with Trouba here in Winnipeg. Yup. Jets hired Troubas brother TJ... he's part of the Winnipeg Jets Hockey Academy...

 

Trust me, there is a reason the Jets drafted Copp and hired Troubas brother and shipped Bogo out of town. All i will say is Bogo was not a good influence. 

The bolded part, I've now heard from 3 different people.... for whatever that's worth.

EDIT: and confirmed from a simple LinkedIn search. I wonder if he'll accept my add!

What does he do for the jets?

Nothing. He works for the Winnipeg Jets Hockey Academy. Not really sure what that is to be honest. He's not an employee of the Jets exactly, He's an employee of their hockey academy... I believe it involves working with young kids in the city, i'm not sure tho. 

He is listed under the staff of the Winnipeg Jets True North Foundation here:

http://jets.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=75794

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TJ Trouba

Winnipeg Jets Hockey Academy & Game Day

 

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/article/spitfires-brendan-lemieux-named-chl-player-of-the-week

Personally I think they will sign Ladd and trade buff and I think despite Ladds slow start probably due to his off season surgery... it will be the right move. Ladd takes a lot of heat but... he's a guy who plays through injuries and rarely misses a game and the fact that he built a house here and likes it here probably plays a factor. Our lw depth isn't good. Our rhd depth is. Buff will be traded and Ladd will sign 

47 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Personally I think they will sign Ladd and trade buff and I think despite Ladds slow start probably due to his off season surgery... it will be the right move. Ladd takes a lot of heat but... he's a guy who plays through injuries and rarely misses a game and the fact that he built a house here and likes it here probably plays a factor. Our lw depth isn't good. Our rhd depth is. Buff will be traded and Ladd will sign 

The rumors would seem to point on that direction. That they negotiated with Ladd. Agreed on term. That they never talked to Buff. Supposedly offered him to the Isles. 

I think most people would keep buff right now and trade Ladd. But long term keeping ladd and trading buff is probably the right move.  

Sadly buff is really our only bonafide superstar. Perhaps Wheeler though he sort of flies under the radar. 

Buff is a part time super star.....  the ultimate tease. 

Some rumors out there that the Oilers are very interested in Buff and are talking to the Jets about him. Not sure what it would take but... 2016 1st for sure and then what do they add? Cuz trust me, they add... Not interested in Yakupov or Schultz or guys like that personally.

22 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Some rumors out there that the Oilers are very interested in Buff and are talking to the Jets about him. Not sure what it would take but... 2016 1st for sure and then what do they add? Cuz trust me, they add... Not interested in Yakupov or Schultz or guys like that personally.

Hmmm that's tough.  I've seen saying Edmonton as a trade partner for Buff for ages.  Nuge is out there as a possibility.  Chevy wanted a top six guy earlier.  Buff+ for 1st round & Nuge?

Then Nuge allows them to move on from Ladd?  Or if they do re-sign Ladd, it makes Nuge the 2LW and pushes Perreault to 3C or 3LW.  Perreault-Lowry-Ehlers could be a strong 3rd line.  Nuge-Scheif-Stafford as second line.

Rumors are rumors. Has anyone heard if the Jets have asked Buff for his no trade list of teams, because if they haven't...

21 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Rumors are rumors. Has anyone heard if the Jets have asked Buff for his no trade list of teams, because if they haven't...

There is some speculation that players with the no trade lists provide them at the beginning of every season.  So a team doesnt have to go to a player at a specific point and request it...and then request it again later in the season and so on.  I believe Lawless mentioned he wasnt sure if it was a list of 10 teams he would NOT go to or a list of 10 teams he WOULD go to.  But odds are the Jets have it already.

I cant see Edmonton being on his go-to list, but you never know.  Maybe he likes Canada.  Besides, being a pending UFA, he could be fine going anywhere now...his choice in the summer.