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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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18 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

O'Hare was diagnosed with a debilitating illness and asked to be written out. There's a video of the creator(JMS) finally revealing this.

Beat me to it. It was a sad story that wasn't disclosed at the time.

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Picard gets a 6/10 for me. By which I mean I enjoyed it but I definitely didn't love it. Storyline was okay but drifts too far from the original feel of the utopian society and the relatively moral federation. I understand it's a different time now and the old TNG style wouldn't have worked but they strayed a little too far for me and also seemed to suffer from trying to cram too much content into too short of a time period which resulted in poor character development and interactions. Overall though I still welcome the return of Picard and the others from the TNG-Voyager era. Hoping we get a stronger plot and appearances from a few more fan favourites (glad they restrained from cramming ALL old characters into season one) if and when the second season drops.

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Picard gets a 6/10 for me. By which I mean I enjoyed it but I definitely didn't love it. Storyline was okay but drifts too far from the original feel of the utopian society and the relatively moral federation. I understand it's a different time now and the old TNG style wouldn't have worked but they strayed a little too far for me and also seemed to suffer from trying to cram too much content into too short of a time period which resulted in poor character development and interactions. Overall though I still welcome the return of Picard and the others from the TNG-Voyager era. Hoping we get a stronger plot and appearances from a few more fan favourites (glad they restrained from cramming ALL old characters into season one) if and when the second season drops.

I put Picard below Disco season 1. That's how much i disliked it.

There is the common complaint: Ten episodes with too much story to tell.  Character development at a minimum. Other than Picard, we know little, if nothing about each character or really why they are there in the first place. I've always maintained a 22 episode season allows a lot more freedom to tell a story. And to slow down the pace or speed it up as  required. Also, not a fan of one storyline the entire series.

So now, the storyline next season will be an 82 year old Commander with a neurotic Captain who wishes Picard was his father. The crew is a former Borg with trust issues who killed without regrets but suddenly may have a few now. A drug addicted & alcoholic second officer/pilot, an unstable assistant who killed her mentor & a Romulan Samurai who has no idea why he's there & neither does the audience. And off into the universe they go. Are they know the 23rd century's version of Robin Hood & his band of Merry Men (& Women)? 

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28 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

There is the common complaint: Ten episodes with too much story to tell.  Character development at a minimum. Other than Picard, we know little, if nothing about each character or really why they are there in the first place. I've always maintained a 22 episode season allows a lot more freedom to tell a story. And to slow down the pace or speed it up as  required. Also, not a fan of one storyline the entire series.

So now, the storyline next season will be an 82 year old Commander with a neurotic Captain who wishes Picard was his father. The crew is a former Borg with trust issues who killed without regrets but suddenly may have a few now. A drug addicted & alcoholic second officer/pilot, an unstable assistant who killed her mentor & a Romulan Samurai who has no idea why he's there & neither does the audience. And off into the universe they go. Are they know the 23rd century's version of Robin Hood & his band of Merry Men (& Women)? 

It doesnt matter how you feel about a 22 episode season, its never going to happen.  

WHo's the 82 year old Commander??  

I disagree that there wasnt character development or that we didnt learn about the crew.  I thought they did a very good job of adding layers to each of them.

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

So now, the storyline next season will be an 82 year old Commander...

The actor is 82, the character is 92. Yes, I don't get it why they aged him 10 years either but it's canon.

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

It doesnt matter how you feel about a 22 episode season, its never going to happen.  

WHo's the 82 year old Commander??  

I disagree that there wasnt character development or that we didnt learn about the crew.  I thought they did a very good job of adding layers to each of them.

To me, there wasn't much development & what there was seemed rushed. I don't think Picard was that bad actually. 

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17 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

 

There's a bunch of these and they're hilarious!

On 2020-04-14 at 7:43 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

There's a bunch of these and they're hilarious!

Riker looks a bit frazzled. 

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1 hour ago, iHeart said:

Worst kept secret in trekdom. But great news.  Although it confuses me since the talking points were how disco had to move into the future to be free of canon. And now they’re doing a show that is steeped in canon where we know what happens to two of the main characters

On 2020-04-05 at 10:59 AM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Happy First Contact Day

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That was a classic scene from Enterprise: In A Mirror, Darkly.

12 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Worst kept secret in trekdom. But great news.  Although it confuses me since the talking points were how disco had to move into the future to be free of canon. And now they’re doing a show that is steeped in canon where we know what happens to two of the main characters

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10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

That was a classic scene from Enterprise: In A Mirror, Darkly.

My isolation binge was Enterprise, now The Good Place.

2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

My isolation binge was Enterprise, now The Good Place.

I've always liked Enterprise. I think it gets a bad rap. It was criticized for the Temporal Time War & Xindi season arcs at the time. But Discovery & Picard are doing the same thing today & are celebrated for it. 

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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I've always liked Enterprise. I think it gets a bad rap. It was criticized for the Temporal Time War & Xindi season arcs at the time. But Discovery & Picard are doing the same thing today & are celebrated for it. 

Enterprise has a great premise.  And they tried. But the network wanted them on a ship in space from day one.  Originally they were not going to launch the ship until the end of the first season.  
 

They quickly got away from showing less advanced tech and just did everything every other series did.  
 

the serialized stories were just boring. Hated the xindi arc.  Liked the last season when they broke it down into smaller arcs and started trying to be a real prequel.  
 

In terms of serialized story telling DS9 did it best and disco and Picard could still learn from how that show did it.  Best trek series of all time.  Best writing, best acting. 

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Enterprise has a great premise.  And they tried. But the network wanted them on a ship in space from day one.  Originally they were not going to launch the ship until the end of the first season.  
 

They quickly got away from showing less advanced tech and just did everything every other series did.  
 

the serialized stories were just boring. Hated the xindi arc.  Liked the last season when they broke it down into smaller arcs and started trying to be a real prequel.  
 

In terms of serialized story telling DS9 did it best and disco and Picard could still learn from how that show did it.  Best trek series of all time.  Best writing, best acting. 

Agree. DS9 was the best. The only thing I didn't like about that series was making Sisco one of the prophets. I believe in God myself but I don't go to church. For me, there was too much religion in that show almost to it's detriment. I'd have also liked Dukat to have had a better final ending. Like becoming an ally of Sisko,  The way they were in the introduction of the Maquis when they worked together. They didn't like one another but begrudgingly respected the other. I wish that would have been built upon. I saw that as a lost opportunity to really make the show go in a  different direction. 

Back to Enterprise... I liked the Xindi Arc better than the Temporal Cold War. I don't think those arcs were boring at all. I think if they waited a year to get Enterprise into space the series would have been cancelled after a single season.  My premise is why go exploring into The Great Unknown with just one ship & no idea who or what is out there? Build up your defenses of Earth first & then when you have a fleet of say 5 or 6 ships then start your exploration.  They should have had Trip & T'Pol get married.  Serving ten years together after what they went through losing a baby & then shrugging it off by just becoming work colleagues after that  in the final episode & then killing Trip off was a travesty. As was making the final episode a hologram for Ryker to study. I think not bringing T'Pol & Trip together in marriage & the whole final episode being a hologram was a final **** You by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga  to fans who hated the show. 

Connor Trinnear said that Scott Bakula was furious with the ending but he never let his anger get in the way of filming that final episode. Trinnear also said that when the cast found out how the series ended they were all in shock. 

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21 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Agree. DS9 was the best. The only thing I didn't like about that series was making Sisco one of the prophets. I believe in God myself but I don't go to church. For me, there was too much religion in that show almost to it's detriment. I'd have also liked Dukat to have had a better final ending. Like becoming an ally of Sisko,  The way they were in the introduction of the Maquis when they worked together. They didn't like one another but begrudgingly respected the other. I wish that would have been built upon. I saw that as a lost opportunity to really make the show go in a  different direction. 

Back to Enterprise... I liked the Xindi Arc better than the Temporal Cold War. I don't think those arcs were boring at all. I think if they waited a year to get Enterprise into space the series would have been cancelled after a single season.  My premise is why go exploring into The Great Unknown with just one ship & no idea who or what is out there? Build up your defenses of Earth first & then when you have a fleet of say 5 or 6 ships then start your exploration.  They should have had Trip & T'Pol get married.  Serving ten years together after what they went through losing a baby & then shrugging it off by just becoming work colleagues after that  in the final episode & then killing Trip off was a travesty. As was making the final episode a hologram for Ryker to study. I think not bringing T'Pol & Trip together in marriage & the whole final episode being a hologram was a final **** You by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga  to fans who hated the show. 

Connor Trinnear said that Scott Bakula was furious with the ending but he never let his anger get in the way of filming that final episode. Trinnear also said that when the cast found out how the series ended they were all in shock. 

That would never fly- Klingons get frisky only every few years and Trip would probably not hang around waiting for that. And when she experienced pon farr, it would likely kill him anyways.

8 minutes ago, Tracker said:

That would never fly- Klingons get frisky only every few years and Trip would probably not hang around waiting for that. And when she experienced pon farr, it would likely kill him anyways.

I think the Pon Farr only happens to single Vulcans who haven't mated.  Besides, according to Star Trek cannon, Spock was half human. His mother was human & had a long marriage to his father Sarek.  See the source image

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49 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I think the Pon Farr only happens to single Vulcans who haven't mated.  Besides, according to Star Trek cannon, Spock was half human. His mother was human & had a long marriage to his father Sarek. 

And you might notice that she's not around any more.....

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3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Agree. DS9 was the best. The only thing I didn't like about that series was making Sisco one of the prophets. I believe in God myself but I don't go to church. For me, there was too much religion in that show almost to it's detriment. I'd have also liked Dukat to have had a better final ending. Like becoming an ally of Sisko,  The way they were in the introduction of the Maquis when they worked together. They didn't like one another but begrudgingly respected the other. I wish that would have been built upon. I saw that as a lost opportunity to really make the show go in a  different direction. 

Back to Enterprise... I liked the Xindi Arc better than the Temporal Cold War. I don't think those arcs were boring at all. I think if they waited a year to get Enterprise into space the series would have been cancelled after a single season.  My premise is why go exploring into The Great Unknown with just one ship & no idea who or what is out there? Build up your defenses of Earth first & then when you have a fleet of say 5 or 6 ships then start your exploration.  They should have had Trip & T'Pol get married.  Serving ten years together after what they went through losing a baby & then shrugging it off by just becoming work colleagues after that  in the final episode & then killing Trip off was a travesty. As was making the final episode a hologram for Ryker to study. I think not bringing T'Pol & Trip together in marriage & the whole final episode being a hologram was a final **** You by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga  to fans who hated the show. 

Connor Trinnear said that Scott Bakula was furious with the ending but he never let his anger get in the way of filming that final episode. Trinnear also said that when the cast found out how the series ended they were all in shock. 

Oh yeah that final episode was awful.  What a slap in the face. Bakula should have used his leverage to nix it. But he’s a class act.   Still waiting for a Quantum Leap revival though. 
 

apparently the temporal Cold War was to be resolved with Future Guy being Archer himself.  Meh. 

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