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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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I think it was Michael Piller being brought in for season 2 of TNG that changed the game. berman gained power and brought Piller in. Gene lost power. 

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I think it was Michael Piller being brought in for season 2 of TNG that changed the game. berman gained power and brought Piller in. Gene lost power. 

Also new S2 Doc better then S1 Doc.

5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Also new S2 Doc better then S1 Doc.

The doctor in the second season of TNG played by Diana Mauldaur was a *****. 

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On 10/28/2017 at 11:50 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

The doctor in the second season of TNG played by Diana Mauldaur was a *****. 

Yeah.  I mean she was ok, but I much preferh Beverly.

just watched last weeks episode last night, dunno what all the fuss was about it. I enjoyed it, thought it was well done.

10 minutes ago, SPuDS said:

just watched last weeks episode last night, dunno what all the fuss was about it. I enjoyed it, thought it was well done.

How bout that scene before the opening credits? :P

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10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Time loop. Direct steal from TNG. 

Can you steal from yourself?  Steal implies a negative.  Clearly a homage.  Fun episode too!

17 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Time loop. Direct steal from TNG. 

 

6 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Can you steal from yourself?  Steal implies a negative.  Clearly a homage.  Fun episode too!

Agreed- really fun episode. I am really digging this Star Trek. 

 

I thought the looping reminded me more of Dr. Strange.  Regardless- I really enjoyed the episode.

I find this version of Star Trek is growing on me, enjoyed last weeks episode, characters are starting to get some personalities 

10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Can you steal from yourself?  Steal implies a negative.  Clearly a homage.  Fun episode too!

Steal in the sense of plot. The Enterprise was caught in a time loop as well on an episode of TNG. Same idea. I mean, I didn't mind the episode but if authors, songwriters, journalists & students can be accused of plagiarism then why can't writers of a tv serie? I didn't say it was a negative  but if people interpret it that way, oh well.  BTW, I like Star Trek: Discovery so everyone cool their jets. I just raised the point that an episode of TNG had a similar plot.

4 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

 

Agreed- really fun episode. I am really digging this Star Trek. 

 

I thought the looping reminded me more of Dr. Strange.  Regardless- I really enjoyed the episode.

Different writers, different directors, different producers, different actors, different series so it's not stealing from yourself. 

11 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Can you steal from yourself?

 

Yeah, this last episode almost felt like an actual episode of Star Trek where there was actual human interaction and it wasn't the whole "Federation vs Klingons".

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13 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Steal in the sense of plot. The Enterprise was caught in a time loop as well on an episode of TNG. Same idea. I mean, I didn't mind the episode but if authors, songwriters, journalists & students can be accused of plagiarism then why can't writers of a tv serie? I didn't say it was a negative  but if people interpret it that way, oh well.  BTW, I like Star Trek: Discovery so everyone cool their jets. I just raised the point that an episode of TNG had a similar plot.

It wasnt plagerism because there was no effort to pass someones work off as their own.  And it only had general similarities to the TNG episode Cause & Effect, that being a repeated time loop.  How it was caused, how it was resolved and how everyone acted within it was completely different.  It would be like saying you can only do one time travel episode because its now done and everyone else is stealing.

And since CBS owns everything regardless of writer, director etc, if they did steal it would be from themselves.  I get what you're saying but its sort of a staple of Trek to do "time" episodes (time travel, time loops, time jumps). 

I actually liked how they spent little time on examining the how of the situation and just went into trying to work through it.  And apparently "Time Crystals" are a thing...

8 hours ago, Logan007 said:

Yeah, this last episode almost felt like an actual episode of Star Trek where there was actual human interaction and it wasn't the whole "Federation vs Klingons".

Did not like it. Time loop been done. No scene before opening credits. Another space traveling creature. And what of the Admiral? Nada mention.

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10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

It wasnt plagerism because there was no effort to pass someones work off as their own.  And it only had general similarities to the TNG episode Cause & Effect, that being a repeated time loop.  How it was caused, how it was resolved and how everyone acted within it was completely different.  It would be like saying you can only do one time travel episode because its now done and everyone else is stealing.

And since CBS owns everything regardless of writer, director etc, if they did steal it would be from themselves.  I get what you're saying but its sort of a staple of Trek to do "time" episodes (time travel, time loops, time jumps). 

I actually liked how they spent little time on examining the how of the situation and just went into trying to work through it.  And apparently "Time Crystals" are a thing...

I never quite figured out how the original Enterprise could travel back in time looping around the sun considering they'd be going so fast it would pass them by starting from Earth orbit to the sun in microseconds. Whereas on TOS they had about 10 actual minutes to do it. It's Trek, it doesn't need a logical explanation, I guess.  Since it's time travel just about anything could explain it, I guess. 

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16 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I never quite figured out how the original Enterprise could travel back in time looping around the sun considering they'd be going so fast it would pass them by starting from Earth orbit to the sun in microseconds. Whereas on TOS they had about 10 actual minutes to do it. It's Trek, it doesn't need a logical explanation, I guess.  Since it's time travel just about anything could explain it, I guess. 

Yeah they take a lot of theoretical science and make it work. Or just make things up. Lol

the slingshot around the sun was based on the idea that warp 10 was an unachievable speed at which you’d be moving faster than time and be stuck in an infinite time loop. To get there they used the gravity of the sun to slingshot the ship to that speed. 

In Trek IV they did it and the key thing was programming breaking thrusters to fire and take them out of the time loop at the right moment.  When they’re in the time travel sequence you can actually hear dialogue from later in the film. 

What do they call it on Trek? Quantum Time Mechanics? 

Read that The Orville has been renewed by Fox.  Is it just me or are the plots getting a little more serious with less campy jokes?

17 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Read that The Orville has been renewed by Fox.  Is it just me or are the plots getting a little more serious with less campy jokes?

It is getting better, in my opinion. I think they figured out they are not Galaxy Quest. Mind you, the statue humping was out of place.

4 hours ago, tacklewasher said:

It is getting better, in my opinion. I think they figured out they are not Galaxy Quest. Mind you, the statue humping was out of place.

The only thing about that particular episode was Lamarr didn't learn anything about what he did. In the end, he was still the same jerk that he was before it happened. Actor J Lee plays John Lamarr character like he's an asshat. If anything, he should have learned about being grateful & humble which never happened.  I have a feeling if they had used a white crew member in that episode it would have been different.

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So, what did anyone think of last night's episode of The Orville? I found it absolutely cringeworthy. 

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

So, what did anyone think of last night's episode of The Orville? I found it absolutely cringeworthy. 

Good description.

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Wrong thread! Lol

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