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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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53 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

That could be interesting.  Would she still be called Elizabeth Tucker though if Section 31 was trying to keep her secret?

Probably not but if her name is a reveal of some significance, it would have to be something we know.

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Captain Janeway is the best captain!

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1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Captain Janeway is the best captain!

Well........ she was probably the worst Captain really.

20 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Well........ she was probably the worst Captain really.

I loved her and I loved Voyager!  Worst captain was easily Scott Bakula!  lol

All the old shows are on Netflix right now. TOS, Animated TOS, TNG, DS9 Voyager. Hoping they are prepping for showing the new series or something.

As well, Voyager is on Space.

Tried re-watching Enterprise, but god it was awful from the get go.

 

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6 minutes ago, tacklewasher said:

All the old shows are on Netflix right now. TOS, Animated TOS, TNG, DS9 Voyager. Hoping they are prepping for showing the new series or something.

As well, Voyager is on Space.

Tried re-watching Enterprise, but god it was awful from the get go.

 

I think they are all on Netflix (not sure if TAS is).  They are finally releasing TAS on Blue Ray actually.  There is a 50th anni collection that includes everything TOS related.

Enterprise was the result of a tired, worn out group of Voyager people who ran out of ideas.  Great premise.  Horrible execution.  Rather poor casting too.  Bakula is awesome but he was terribly mis-cast on Enterprise.  Trip, T'Pol and Reed were decent.  I guess Phlox was okay too.  So...maybe not that bad of casting

You're right. Probably more to do with the 50th then the new show. And TAS is definitely on as I watch the first couple of episodes.

Kinda liked everyone on ST:E though the Phlox character's race should not have been on the show. Nit picking.

Would have preferred a more simplistic show not ones where the transporter, holodeck, temporal police make appearances.

Season 3/4 were really good. Sort of a view of whats to come with single/multiple story arcs.

I'm just about done rewatching Enterprise.  The last season is actually decent compared to the rest.  Finally getting interesting.  I liked all the characters except Reed and Trip actually.  Although Trip started to grow on me.  The whole temporal story line was just annoying as hell.  Enough with the time travel ****.  This show could have been so much better and they just wrecked it.

9 hours ago, Logan007 said:

I'm just about done rewatching Enterprise.  The last season is actually decent compared to the rest.  Finally getting interesting.  I liked all the characters except Reed and Trip actually.  Although Trip started to grow on me.  The whole temporal story line was just annoying as hell.  Enough with the time travel ****.  This show could have been so much better and they just wrecked it.

I actually liked Enterprise a lot more than Voyager with the stupid ending after 7 seasons. And Janeway was always too preachy for me considering it was her who stranded the 2 crews in the Delta Quadrant. You'd think after 7 seasons with that woman in charge the crew of Voyager would have mutineed & replaced her with Chakotay.

Archer is an inexperienced galactic Captain flying around the the Universe for the first with a huge chip on his shoulder trying to prove to the Vulcans that humans were worthy of space travel. Soon to find out his ship is actually underpowered, with insufficient defensive capabilities & woefully inept at engaging other alien races in battle. The ongoing temporal wars got a little long in the tooth but the writing during the last 2 seasons were the best but by then they pulled the plug on the series.

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That was the issue with Janeway.  She is a great actor but her character was very self righteous and preachy.

Enterprise never delivered on its premise.  

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

So, rolling out the premiere in May just in time for summer when people are on holidays or too busy doing other things to watch, 13 episodes instead of 22, a female lead hopefully not like Janeway... on a secondary network & not on the main CBS network. Yeah, CBS sure takes their ST responsibility seriously. Why do I sense a disaster in the making?

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13/season was what I've always heard.

been rewatching old trek, ill prolly check this out but i really wish it wasnt set back in time again. 

6 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

13/season was what I've always heard.

Half a commitment as far as I'm concerned. Why not go next September then instead of May full out on CBS with 22-26 episodes? Get it right the first time. If there's a rabid following like CBS contends this series will be a hit.

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6 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Half a commitment as far as I'm concerned. Why not go next September then instead of May full out on CBS with 22-26 episodes? Get it right the first time. If there's a rabid following like CBS contends this series will be a hit.

Is Game of Thrones half a commitment?  Was the Sopranos half a commitment?  This is the new way of doing quality TV, especially in this format (streaming).  It was always going to be this way.

As for why they dont run the full CBS network, I suppose if you want it cancelled really quickly, then that would be something to hope for.  Network's are terrible for giving up on shows too soon.  The pressure on Star Trek to perform would be huge.  And realistically, Trek is something that would appeal to a niche audience.  Its still a worthy and valuable network but they would need to hit a certain rating to take up space on CBS.  Its way better what they are doing.

The show has already turned a profit for CBS based on international deals.  There is no threat of it being cancelled immediately.  In the streaming world, its all about driving subs.  This is for the best.

Pushing back to May is also a good idea.  January was too soon.  Too much pressure.  HBO has shows that debut in spring/summer.  People still watch TV.  The benefit to streaming is that those people can watch it whenever they want.  So people going to the cottage or whatever, can watch it at the lake when the kids are in bed, or watch it when they get home, or stream it in the car.  Whatever.

9 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Half a commitment as far as I'm concerned. Why not go next September then instead of May full out on CBS with 22-26 episodes? Get it right the first time. If there's a rabid following like CBS contends this series will be a hit.

There is a huge amount of people who prefer this than 22 episodes.  I've also read a lot of people say they'd actually prefer a 10 episode season instead of 13.

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8 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

There is a huge amount of people who prefer this than 22 episodes.  I've also read a lot of people say they'd actually prefer a 10 episode season instead of 13.

Yeah, I think a lot of people who love 52 episodes per year of a great show.  But obviously that cant happen.  The 10-13 episode shows are becoming the norm for the HBO-style high quality programs.  Its easier production, allows for attracting better actors and crew.  And for Streaming (and HBO) purposes, obviously its a more efficient use of money.

We all want more of a good thing.  But the balance makes sense. 

Yeah, I'd prefer the 22 season episodes, especially if it's a show I love, but you have to remember a lot of those are filler episodes.  As long as they don't put fillers into a 13 episode season and they are all quality, I'm all for it.

Quality over quantity. If people want 20+ eps a season let them wait 2 years then binge watch season 1+2.

 

On 9/9/2016 at 10:08 AM, Atomic said:

I loved her and I loved Voyager!  Worst captain was easily Scott Bakula!  lol

Bakula's character wasn't the worst. he was an inexperienced explorer. No book was written in his time as to how situations should be handled. Janeway was an experienced Starship Captain who preached the Prime Directive every week & broke it every week. She was an awful character & Captain. It's a wonder her crew never killed her.

7 hours ago, Logan007 said:

Yeah, I'd prefer the 22 season episodes, especially if it's a show I love, but you have to remember a lot of those are filler episodes.  As long as they don't put fillers into a 13 episode season and they are all quality, I'm all for it.

Every series on major networks are at least 22. I don't recall too many people complaining it's too many. Your slant is different. I just think that the producers & writers are delaying the debut until May. Why not wait now until next September. Maybe that video of the Starship got such bad reviews they realized they had to go back to the drawing board.

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