I wasn't sure where this Israel, Iran and China debacle should go, so I thought I would start a new thread and post it here:

Interesting article disusing Israel's actions in trying to destabilize Iran and how it monumentally backfired and brought China into the Middle East... it's kind of crazy

 

"To the extent that Netanyahu played a role here, his plot has backfired monumentally. If the China deal goes through, Iran is much strengthened and its hard liners are entirely unleashed. The positioning of Chinese security forces in Iran will make it increasingly risky for other countries such as Israel or the US to strike Iran, lest they come into conflict with nuclear-armed China."

Edited September 10, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Anyone who ever thought thus ended well for prigozhin was a fool. 

I am at a loss as to why Prigozhin backed off and why he could think that Putin would not kill him. Putin's history is absolute proof that he has no compunction whatever about killing off any real, potential or suspected opposition.

43 minutes ago, Tracker said:

I am at a loss as to why Prigozhin backed off and why he could think that Putin would not kill him. Putin's history is absolute proof that he has no compunction whatever about killing off any real, potential or suspected opposition.

Perhaps because he has his own army? 

I exchanged emails with a friend in Poland and asked what they thought would be happening in Russia and this bizarre rebellion. They went on that it didn’t matter what anyone does to Putin, he is a serial killer and will eliminate anyone and everyone that gets in his way. Putin should never be trusted and must be eliminated. 
this isn’t stuff we in North America didn’t know. The Europeans live so close to this guy and perhaps see on a more regular basis and with greater frequency the pronounced evil that is Putin. 

7 minutes ago, JCon said:

Perhaps because he has his own army? 

Most of his troops are still in Russia or occupied Ukraine. He is far more vulnerable in Belarus where his best friend was blown to hell a few weeks ago.

From my understanding the FSB threatened the family members of MANY of the Wagnerites. 

Pigro, got cold feet. 

 

 

                                    

35 minutes ago, Tracker said:

 

 

                                    

At this stage no matter who you are and what side you're presently on, everyone is looking over their shoulder.

Putin's paranoia may well cause his downfall.

3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Putin's paranoia may well cause his downfall.

Same thing has been said for 20+ years. 

17 minutes ago, JCon said:

Same thing has been said for 20+ years. 

Yep - we've also lost count of how many times he's been deceased

Few dictators in the last few hundred years has died in their beds at a ripe old age. Most have reaped what they sowed.

29 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Few dictators in the last few hundred years has died in their beds at a ripe old age. Most have reaped what they sowed.

Yes, but each week you post a new "downfall of Putin" stuff and he's still here. 

I thought he had MS? Parkinson's? Dementia? I thought his generals are turning on him? The oligarchs are turning on him? 

 

It's hard to sift through all the misinformation out there, especially on social media.

I do, however, think it's fair to say the complexion of things in Russia has changed pretty significantly since Putin chose to invade Ukraine last February. How that plays out remains to be seen but I can't imagine it's going to end well for the current president or his beleaguered country.

ptui!  Putin is a piker compared these guys:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1346849/longest-ruling-dictators-world/

round of applause for Paul Biya, making everyone's life better in Cameroon since 1975.

👏👏👏

 

Edited June 27, 20232 yr by Mark F

14 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

It's hard to sift through all the misinformation out there, especially on social media.

I do, however, think it's fair to say the complexion of things in Russia has changed pretty significantly since Putin chose to invade Ukraine last February. How that plays out remains to be seen but I can't imagine it's going to end well for the current president or his beleaguered country.

You would think but looking at ghouls like Trump and his family where they continue to wreak havoc and grift away, I dunno it's hard to keep faith in the adage no one is above the law. 

Now there’s a war in Iraq. https://twitter.com/tpostmillennial/status/1674061625597345796?s=61&t=_stQ2xKaj3IiEFd7rNK7jg

                                                                   

 

                                                                  

 

 

                          Vice President of Loco Bank fell out the window from 11th floor in Moscow on 24.06. She was 28

 

 

                                                    

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

                          Vice President of Loco Bank fell out the window from 11th floor in Moscow on 24.06. She was 28

 

 

                                                    

They really have an issue with window safety amongst the elite in Russia. They really need to look into their building codes over there.

On 2023-06-27 at 6:30 PM, JCon said:

Yes, but each week you post a new "downfall of Putin" stuff and he's still here. 

I thought he had MS? Parkinson's? Dementia? I thought his generals are turning on him? The oligarchs are turning on him? 

 

Putin is a plague on this world. He may not get what he deserves but if anyone deserves a rope in The Hague it is him. Many of his comrades as well. 

On 2023-06-28 at 9:07 AM, HardCoreBlue said:

You would think but looking at ghouls like Trump and his family where they continue to wreak havoc and grift away, I dunno it's hard to keep faith in the adage no one is above the law. 

Anyone who actually believes that is a fool. It's been disproven time and time again.

 

                                           

                                                                    

 

                                                                   

 

 

                                                                       

 

                                                             

Left general dimitry pavlov commander of the western front, sentenced and shot when the germans attacked the soviet union because stalin needed scape goats for disaster of loosing 290k soldiers at the first days of ww2, right sergei surowkin, just arrested