Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

I’m driving so can’t cite the passage but the report actually lays out the motivation for trump to obstruct. Which is that trump feared a full investigation works uncover other crimes. 

Hes toast. 

5 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I hope not... I don't think that is fair- they elected him, they need to live with that decision and continue to do so or vote his ass out. No resets here. 

I’m of two minds. It’s better for the US to just beat him. 

But this isnt partisan. It may end up being because the GOP might shirk it’s duty. But the duty of congress is to hold the president to account. If he broke the law which he appears to have done they have to impeach. 

Ans the GOP, with this evidence, can event disagree. They impeached Clinton for lying about an affair. Hardly comparable to trumps crimes. 

Its actually better for the Dems to just use this in 2020 and beat him. But congress would be aiding the criminal if they don’t do their duty. 

I thknk though, they will do more investigations before introducing articles of impeachment.  They’ll want Mueller under oath.  They really should demand Trump testify too. And let him plead the 5th. 

Edited April 18, 20196 yr by The Unknown Poster

The Republicans have ditched everyone but the racist stupid Trump cult voters.

I wouldn't impeach him,.....that would be a rallying cry. 

Do the slow drip.

 

Edited April 18, 20196 yr by Mark F

6 minutes ago, Mark F said:

The Republicans have ditched everyone but the racist Trump cult voters.

Now that's all they've got.

 they're stuck with Trump no matter how stupid and insane he is.

I wouldn't impeach him, let him dangle and get crazier by the day.

 

But the nuke codes.... 

2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

But the nuke codes.... 

very good point. But he could do that anytime. 

Or, invade Iran.

Trump is probably afraid for his life now. Putin lurking.

Edited April 18, 20196 yr by Mark F

 

 

Hopefully there be another person who saves trump from himself (And the rest of the world)  and disobey a direct order

Barr went a bit overboard redacting...

 

 

Barr might end up impeached 

This is probably the most succinct summary of the mountain of evidence against Trump and his campaign. 

 

Clink on the link, it's 35 tweets long but lays out everything in the report. 

21 minutes ago, JCon said:

This is probably the most succinct summary of the mountain of evidence against Trump and his campaign. 

 

Clink on the link, it's 35 tweets long but lays out everything in the report. 

Thanks for that.

 

Funny- it doesn't read AT ALL like Barr's 3 page review and his press conference. 

38 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Thanks for that.

 

Funny- it doesn't read AT ALL like Barr's 3 page review and his press conference. 

Barr has stained his career forever now.  He’ll be lucky to avoid getting impeached himself.  

For all the times trump attacked and maligned the DOJ and FBI etc to have the AG do this, it’s disgusting.   

There is a passage where Mueller refers to Trumps criminal conduct and states it’s the role of congress to hold him accountable for abuse of power. It doesn’t get anymore clear than that. 

Now will the people who have been defending this guy for months, who said it was time to get over it, that trump was exonerated and did nothing wrong, will those people now admit they were wrong and that trump has committed these impeachable acts? 

Or will it be “so what, senate won’t convict and hey what about Hilary?”  

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

But the nuke codes.... 

Vey clearly people are willing to disregard his orders.  Those are civilians. Generals?  Not a chance they wouldn’t disobey an order like that. They would. And it dove tails to my point about talking to a US major who told me he was largely disrespected by the military. 

Imagine this.  Trump, the president is effectively a lame duck.  His orders are disobeyed. His staff threaten to quit. Papers are stolen off his desk so he can’t see them.   

Hes not a real president.  Which makes sense given how he won.  

1 hour ago, JCon said:

 

 

So on other words (correct me if I’m wrong), they conducted investigation with the handcuff they they could not say trump committed a crime. But then laid out all the ways he did.   And if they could say he did, they would have. 

Sanders had to admit to mueller she often lies from the podium.  She’s finished as the press secretary.  It won’t matter in this admin. But this admin is lame duck now. 

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Sanders had to admit to mueller she often lies from the podium.  She’s finished as the press secretary.  It won’t matter in this admin. But this admin is lame duck now. 

Sarah Slanders. 

From page 76 Volume 2:  "..a thorough FBI investigation would uncover facts about the campaign and the President personally that the President could have understood to be crimes or that would give rise to personal and political concerns."

 

Saying that Don Jr. is stupid is an affront to stupid people, he and the rest of the Trump clan are an embarrassment, as for AG Barr he is going to get torched when all is said and done. Trump days are numbered, the Dems want Mueller to testify and that will open everyone's eyes that they have a bat shiate criminal as the POTUS

42 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Sanders had to admit to mueller she often lies from the podium.  She’s finished as the press secretary.  It won’t matter in this admin. But this admin is lame duck now. 

Probably the reason why she did so few press events and what out of sight for the last while,

So maybe there are tapes 

 

12 minutes ago, bustamente said:

So maybe there are tapes 

Certainly looks like it from that.

Pretty amazing set up and follow through by the Russians.

Their man in the Whitehouse.

With lots of help from the Republicans.

 

Edited April 18, 20196 yr by Mark F

Oh the tapes part is very interesting indeed, maybe finally some real hard evidence that he was compromised. Stay tuned. 

Listening to a trump friendly former AG on cnN. Not sure who he was but man did he twist himself into knots. And Cuomo whooped him. 

 

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

So maybe there are tapes 

 

THE PEE PEE TAPES ARE REAL!