Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

1 minute ago, johnzo said:

I'm still waiting to learn where all those millions of illegal voters voted.

it's all on that server in the Ukraine!!!

That was hidden in the Pizza restaurant where Hilary executed someone, while selling uranium to a Russian!

 

Best part about being an internet forum crank like our friend Zontar is, you never need to explain, or give credible sources for anything,

For someone like Zontar, stuff like that doesn't matter at all.

Edited January 14, 20206 yr by Mark F

19 hours ago, Zontar said:

Again, some pretend that corrupt foreign policy is the sole domain of republicans or conservatives or whatever they see as opponents.

Just illustrates the hypocrisy of some of the elites of the progressive Left. Being uncomfortable when reminded doesn't change that fact.

At least you continue to positively contribute to this discussion. Oh, wait...

Just more whining about "progressives"... You keep using that word when you evidently have no clue what it means.

Here's hoping the Ti-Cats go another 20 years without winning anything - simply because of your stupid comments in this thread.

4 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

simply because of your stupid comments in this thread.

"Zontar" :

"three-eyed, bat-winged alien from Venus , a skeletal black creature that has a hidden agenda."

"it begins causing local power outages that stop telephones, automobiles and even running water from working, and it starts taking control of people's minds using flying lobster-like "injecto-pods" that sprout from its wings."

At least he got his choice of moniker right!

 

 

 

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by Mark F

 

This is incredible.  One of rudy’s henchmen provided texts.  
 

the guy offering to take out the ambassador, trump knows him. Remember trump said the ambassador was “going to go through some things”. 
 

 

BBC:

21 saudis enrolled in US Naval training station deported.

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"The attorney general said 17 of the expelled cadets were found to have possessed online terrorist material. Fifteen, including some of the 17 who possessed online terrorist material, had indecent images of children, he added."

Saudi Arabia sends 17 facking terrorists to be trained at a US military academy.

Once again, if you have enough money, you can do anything.

World has gone mad.

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by Mark F

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

This is incredible.

So Trump and Rudy were conspiring to murder someone?

Actually, not surprising. Where's this going?

No wonder the gop wanted the impeachment trial ASAP.  
 

what?? Is this real? 

 

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by The Unknown Poster

Same guy as above.  Same guy seemingly offering a hit on the ambassador and running fro congress. Who also is a pal of trumps.  
 

This stinks.  These guys aren’t just bad news politically. This ain’t breaking into a hotel.  How low does trump and his ilk go...?

Kyle Jurek, a campaign organizer for Bernie Sanders was caught on tape 

Promises "cities will burn" if Trump re elected.

Even if Trump loses populace will have to be "re educated". Like Stalins gulags, which he defends.

If Sanders doesnt get the nomination, "cities will explode". Will make the 1968 Chicago riot "look like an ******* picnic"

Ah, progressives.

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by Zontar

10 hours ago, Mark F said:

So Trump and Rudy were conspiring to murder someone?

Actually, not surprising. Where's this going?

Both sides!

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Both sides!

Wait, you think murdering political opponents is bad, wait til you hear about Bernie wanting universal health care!  wow! Progressives!

So, could go in World Politics but I think this is clearly US-related.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/europe/russian-government-resigns-vladimir-putin-reforms-intl/index.html

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The entire Russian government is resigning, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced Wednesday, after President Vladimir Putin proposed reforms that would weaken his successo

Trump presidency has been very very good...for the bad faith actors of the world.

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by The Unknown Poster

9 hours ago, Zontar said:

Kyle Jurek, a campaign organizer for Bernie Sanders was caught on tape 

Promises "cities will burn" if Trump re elected.

Even if Trump loses populace will have to be "re educated". Like Stalins gulags, which he defends.

If Sanders doesnt get the nomination, "cities will explode". Will make the 1968 Chicago riot "look like an ******* picnic"

Ah, progressives.

Is this all a quote from Kyle?

Do you have a link? 

 

I would think there would be rioting in the streets... Yeah there is a distinct possibility of cities burning. 

14 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Is this all a quote from Kyle?

Do you have a link? 

 

I would think there would be rioting in the streets... Yeah there is a distinct possibility of cities burning. 

Of course. Marxism is inherently violent. The mask always slips off.

 Will Bernie condemn the statements or nah ?

10 hours ago, Zontar said:

Kyle Jurek, a campaign organizer for Bernie Sanders was caught on tape 

Promises "cities will burn" if Trump re elected.

Even if Trump loses populace will have to be "re educated". Like Stalins gulags, which he defends.

If Sanders doesnt get the nomination, "cities will explode". Will make the 1968 Chicago riot "look like an ******* picnic"

Ah, progressives.

 

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Is this all a quote from Kyle?

Do you have a link? 

 

I would think there would be rioting in the streets... Yeah there is a distinct possibility of cities burning. 

 

53 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Of course. Marxism is inherently violent. The mask always slips off.

 Will Bernie condemn the statements or nah ?

 

The above exchange in one gif.

 

 

 

Seriously though, Do you have a link? I would like more information on that interaction. Is this corroborated or rumoured like the millions of illegal voters

 

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

Greedy, reactionary, racist right wingers.    Crazed anarchistic wide eyed socialists.

This may come as a surprise to many, particularly in the Excited States.....but many people fall somewhere in between these poles.  Fortunately.

All this black and white polarizing pigeon holing....and feces throwing.....simply ends up being an intellectual dead end and encourages phony populists, everywhere.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

So, could go in World Politics but I think this is clearly US-related.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/europe/russian-government-resigns-vladimir-putin-reforms-intl/index.html

Trump presidency has been very very good...for the bad faith actors of the world.

Yeah but at least corporations got a tax break! Can you imagine if they didn't? 

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah but at least corporations got a tax break! Can you imagine if they didn't? 

They would get no support from the GOP? Just a shot in the dark.

2 hours ago, do or die said:

Greedy, reactionary, racist right wingers.    Crazed anarchistic wide eyed socialists.

This may come as a surprise to many, particularly in the Excited States.....but many people fall somewhere in between these poles.  Fortunately.

All this black and white polarizing pigeon holing....and feces throwing.....simply ends up being an intellectual dead end and encourages phony populists, everywhere.

Yet the Democrats field  presidential candidates whose platforms radically to the left (by US standards) . And their apologists wonder aloud why they can't make headway. Progressives have abandoned the working class and working poor for racial, sexual , climate politics completely incompatible with a cohesive society they claim they want

Then theyre surprised that those same people they take for granted either don't vote at all or vote for other for other out of protest.

UK election was a clear , loud alarm bell . The Left hemorraged their traditional base. It will happen in the US.  Voters will,stay home, vote Trump as a protest or go to a third party.

"Populism" indeed.

Edited January 15, 20206 yr by Zontar

4 minutes ago, Zontar said:

 Progressives have abandoned the working class and working poor for racial, sexual , climate politics completely incompatible with a cohesive society they claim they want

 

Two sides of the ole coin

So might ask - how does stuffing corporate interests with gobs of money, via giant tax cuts and a myriad of tax evasion vehicles, while gutting regulatory bodies (and by extension the environment) and cutting social programs.....so that those self-same interests... can make even more money.....help the working class and working poor? 

At the moment, does any one really think that this Trump administration is working towards a cohesive society of any sort?

16 minutes ago, do or die said:

Two sides of the ole coin

So might ask - how does stuffing corporate interests with gobs of money, via giant tax cuts and a myriad of tax evasion vehicles, while gutting regulatory bodies (and by extension the environment) and cutting social programs.....so that those self-same interests... can make even more money.....help the working class and working poor? 

At the moment, does any one really think that this Trump administration is working towards a cohesive society of any sort?

Traditional conservatives were sick of outsourcing, open borders, pointless expensive wars by the GOP that only cared about corporations and donor class. Trump was supposed to be the antidote.  Failed on many fronts. He might hemorrage votes too. Some of his base will stay home.

Trump is every thing the right stands for. Slash taxes for the wealthy, but regulations, and overt racism and war mongering. Thatis literally what republicans want.

Yet here you are continually carry water for them because you view progress as a dirty word.

13 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

 

Yet here you are continually carry water for them because you view progress as a dirty word.

Progressivism/Socialism/Marxism/Communism are the dirty words. Brand names for same poison. And, yes, i will carry the water for its containment and/or destruction.

So you hate being inclusive and treating people fairly? You hate protecting employees and the environment from employers who want to make the quickest buck? Why is that? Because those are the things progressives are on about.

So why do you favour things that benefit the ultra rich? I assume you aren't one of them. Do you imagine they will share with you?